View Full Version : Forbidden Fruit?
Slitrobo
08-12-2008, 08:05 PM
If you make an attack hitting several champs at the same time with the fruit will they all die?
whats82
08-12-2008, 08:13 PM
No, only the first trigger.
DirkOfPerk
08-12-2008, 08:13 PM
nope only direct hits with a base attack
asherai
08-12-2008, 09:32 PM
been pondering this lately.
Will fruit make a stealth champ 'pop'?
uh, only if equiping stealth champions makes them appear
CSchwarz
08-12-2008, 09:37 PM
been pondering this lately.
Will fruit make a stealth champ 'pop'?
Equipping it, you mean?
I don't believe so. Stealth only seems to pop for detection, taking damage, or using 1+ AP for an ability. Don't think Equipment unstealths. But I could very well be wrong.
They could always change it a little to being an enemy equipment. To keep it in flavor, whenever the unit attack, it loses 3x the health as it dealt or something. As compensation it increases the attack by +5. I don't know, popped off the top of my head
CSchwarz
08-12-2008, 09:56 PM
They could always change it a little to being an enemy equipment. To keep it in flavor, whenever the unit attack, it loses 3x the health as it dealt or something. As compensation it increases the attack by +5. I don't know, popped off the top of my head
Actually, you reminded me. If you know a champ has riposte on, you can slap the fruit on them and trigger riposte with a neardead/cheap champ. Alternately, I could see low-cost champs vs a single high-cost champ being pretty effective with the fruit--drop it on their expensive champ and they'll either have to shatter/disarm it or kill off their own unit (won't work on champs w/AoE abilities).
yup, since losing 3x the health when doing at minimum 10 is a serious hit. Heck, it'd kill any titan if they were still equipable. It'd certainly make DK's and Liches pretty useless. "Oh, use that 100+ nora unit on me? Okay, I hope those 20 some odd points of damage were worth it buddy"
Edit: UD, FW, and SP already have stuff that makes units get damaged for attacking and such, so my idea isn't completely unfounded
asherai
08-12-2008, 10:59 PM
that was dirk's move with the footman way back when.
no im thinking of our shadowspawn units. say filcher, chameleon...
place them down stealthed, give them fruit. than have them run up to an enemy you dont like and BAM! dead any unit.
DirkOfPerk
08-12-2008, 11:05 PM
that was dirk's move with the footman way back when.
no im thinking of our shadowspawn units. say filcher, chameleon...
place them down stealthed, give them fruit. than have them run up to an enemy you dont like and BAM! dead any unit.
I remember playing a forbidden fruit for real... but it is all in fish eye lens image... damn flashbacks.
I remember running a FF equiped filcher behind an enemy army and then them losing a bunch of AP too it untill they finally found it then BAM! it takes out one of their top units with it and I move in for the kill.
Xiape
08-13-2008, 08:27 AM
In the past, equipping anything on a stealthed champion doesn't break stealth (though I think it appears in the combat log)
At http://forums.poxnora.com/showthread.php?t=1302 more forbidden fruit discussion occurs.
Leeroy002
08-13-2008, 05:55 PM
why are we talking about this? It really dosent matter if fruit pops stealth or not. Fruit is still a crap rune. Unless Octopi makes it more useful its going to stay in the shoe box.
wyv3rn
08-22-2008, 06:00 AM
Like someone wrote in another thread I think the best way to use forbidden fruit is in sl/fw with mobi. With that in mind I looked at my sl/fw bg and started thinking about other possible uses with forbidden fruit. That was when I realized that there could be a nice synergy with the necro because of two reasons:
1. He can summon a skeletton you could put the fruit on and mobi.
2. With soul harvester you could get some of the nora back after eqipping the fruit on the necro himself (for example if he would die anyway in the next round). But I couldn't try this yet, so not sure if you would get the nora from the kill. Can anyone tell me if that works?
Sooo what do you think? is this worth it or should I think of another way to fit my fruit in my bg? :)
Thanks in Advance
EDIT:
I tried it out now, and soul harvester works after the forbidden fruit effect, so I use a tomblord instead. But I have seen a amazing use of ff from smartelf with sl/ud. He used it with a de summoner with invigorate 2... I tried this combo with banish/leech...it's nice :)
Wezel
08-22-2008, 06:47 AM
I use FF in my FF SL group and its saved me on numberous occasions. If I ever equip FF I always use it in that same turn. You can deploy it on stealthed champs but it does show up in the battle log.
The filcher is one of my favorite equips because i get him in range use my other guys to give him AP and cast March of Skeezick if I need too. 75 nora.
I also throw it on my vindictive skeezick when he has multi attack 3 and about to die. then cast march of skeezick and death to the champ.
Ive been cused out using this on titans on more then 1 occasion. what fun =]
Wind789
08-22-2008, 09:49 AM
so, quick what if... what if you were to equip vindictive skeezick with FF, then get 3 ap(by whatever means) and he is engaged by to champions. he has rampage( or whatever the ability is where he hits every champ adjacent to) would all the champions hit by it die?
jibtekw
08-22-2008, 09:54 AM
No, only the first trigger.
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Wezel
08-22-2008, 10:11 AM
havnt actually tried it, but most likely the unit you select will triggar the fruit
Comissar
08-22-2008, 10:41 AM
the question is do the other champs around it still take damage?
hrdngjedi
08-22-2008, 10:43 AM
If you combo forbidden fruit with Draconic Sacrifice does your shrine die?
Schmacko
08-22-2008, 02:29 PM
If you combo forbidden fruit with Draconic Sacrifice does your shrine die?
I'm not sure why you'd even try that, but my thought is yes it should.
Fruit is still one of the best instakills in the game since it works on everything.
Ivaro
08-23-2008, 01:15 AM
I'm not sure why you'd even try that, but my thought is yes it should.
Fruit is still one of the best instakills in the game since it works on everything.
Other than the fact that your shrine would most likely be killed once they realized you had drac sac on, I highly doubt that your shrine would die.