#1 - Deck Building: Full Faction SP Cyclops/Beast Deck

[HawkFain]

Discuss and share your thoughts on Kaervas' featured deck here. Feel free to post screen shots and share stories of what you liked and didn't like.

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[demonmarch]

he mentioned the combo that must not be named (fireball knows what im on about)
i fear nerfage.

that combo is the only merit in having a youth in there so if you were going for that use slags. if you were going for shatter use cave dragon. costs less has more health and gore is cool too.

[Kaervas]

The youth covers both bases and gets increased hitpoints and damage from boost: cyclops. Also, damaging aura 3 is nice offensively and power attack makes him helpful against bone elementals.

[demonmarch]

yeah but your cheiftan will never last long because he has no range protection. thats the problem with the cheiftan. he just gets totally destroyed by focus fire. dont even say boost cyclops is a factor here because it isnt.

[hughmann]

You might consider running a cyclops/moga hybrid. Basically just using slingers and MATs as 'range' back up and G'Overlords as Relocate source 3 and 4. Pit wolves and Hyaenids are a straight swap for the moga and the Whips could be Taskmasters. The bonus is you slightly upgrade your champ quality and the Battlefiend looooves moga.

[Igaboom]

Cyclops work best when supporting moga.

[sokolov]

Goldmonkee ran a variant of this in beta. It was pretty effective.

[demonmarch]

Cyclops work best when supporting moga.

i dont see how..

[redbarret]

The youth covers both bases and gets increased hitpoints and damage from boost: cyclops. Also, damaging aura 3 is nice offensively and power attack makes him helpful against bone elementals.

You wont win Vs D about Cyclops deck...

[Agroagro]

Mbasse has the best cyclops BG. Its 10/10 KF and SP and abuses tribe war. I think his could use some minor tweaks but It seems like a much stronger build then this one.


edit: I guess i should start saying 15/15...

[MBasse]

Mbasse has the best cyclops BG. Its 10/10 KF and SP and abuses tribe war. I think his could use some minor tweaks but It seems like a much stronger build then this one.


edit: I guess i should start saying 15/15...

It's in the process of a short redesign - 15/15, the allowance of 2 Thorn Collection and the (much needed) nerf or Crowded Forces means I need to do some scrounging, but I think it's time to toss in some more cyclops. Vengeful cyclops in particular looks nasty - especially considering how many Tribe Wars I usually spam per game.

And really - a Cyclops deck without Tribe Wars? Nub :P

[Agroagro]

It's in the process of a short redesign - 15/15, the allowance of 2 Thorn Collection and the (much needed) nerf or Crowded Forces means I need to do some scrounging, but I think it's time to toss in some more cyclops. Vengeful cyclops in particular looks nasty - especially considering how many Tribe Wars I usually spam per game.

And really - a Cyclops deck without Tribe Wars? Nub :P

I really think you you should try surge behemoth 2 chieftains. And definitely make room for a alpine cyclops.

But yeah I didnt think about the crowed forces nerf. that will hurt but its still AOE 4. and your going to hit for 14 thats not bad.

[snow1wolf]

ah the greens take on the cyclops deck. I have been runing a cyclops deck of sorts but i have had to go and do a split deck to make it work worth anything.
For a couple good reasons SP/KF is the ideal choice.
First KF provides treant launchers which are the absolute ideal ranged champs for a cyclops deck. They have a very large range and reach which with the rather big champs running around it needs to be able to easily reach across the battle with all your 2x2 champs inbetween. Also lumbering on the treant is not really a problem with the voil transporters to help out. Plus KF adds it's own relocation options to the table. Then thier is the tribe war spell. Tribe war seems to be a very under rated spell but the real trick with it is to make more use out of the 2 cyclops you get than your opponet. Which with the KF speed boost making the 8 speed beserkers you normaly get a more useable 9 speed beserker this is more do able. Having these really expendable maulers running around also gives you some very useful targets for implant combos and of course to just soak up fire. With any smart play you can easily kite the enemy maulers since with only 5 ap max they have a hard time getting an attack off unless you let them. Thier are other things to this sorta deck but i don't want to give it all away so qucikly not when i have not quite finished retooling my deck for 15/15 play.

[snow1wolf]

I really think you you should try surge behemoth 2 chieftains. And definitely make room for a alpine cyclops.

But yeah I didnt think about the crowed forces nerf. that will hurt but its still AOE 4. and your going to hit for 14 thats not bad.

I am glad they nerfed crowded forces it was slowly turning one of my favored types of decks into pure cheese. Now it is pretty free to develop. Also thier are some heavy trade offs to taking surge behmoth 2 i should know i run my cheiftans with it. It costs so much cp you pretty much will not be able to get magic bomb 3 and boost 2. So i pretty much had to pass on the boost 2. If not for the upgrade saving KF bonus i am not sure wheter i would be able to run magic bomb 3 at all with surge behmoth 2 or not.

Realisticly the absolutly really only thing the cyclops type deck is missing that it could really use is some better ranged options or ranged defense.

[demonmarch]

guys. we are talking about FF cyclops decks not KF/SP everyone knows KGF/SP is better but thats not what this is about now is it?

[CheifChaz]

Code:

CHAMPION COST ATK DEF SPD DAM HP RNG
Alpine Cyclops 72 17 10 9 14 47 1
Alpine Cyclops 72 17 10 9 14 47 1
Calcified Lurker 78 11 16 9 8 49 1
Calcified Lurker 78 11 16 9 8 49 1
Cyclops Battlefiend 64 5 30 7 6 58 1 – 2
Cyclops Earthshaker 59 12 11 11 10 45 1
Cyclops Earthshaker 59 12 11 11 10 45 1
Cyclops Nemesis 47 11 11 11 16 52 1
Cyclops Nemesis 47 11 11 11 16 52 1
Lightning Elemental 84 10 11 11 9 40 2 – 5
Moga Cannon 83 10 10 11 10 54 4 – 6
Moga Cannon 83 10 10 11 10 54 4 – 6
Vengeful Cyclops 72 11 14 9 12 49 1
Vengeful Cyclops 72 11 14 9 12 49 1
Voil Sorcerer 82 14 10 11 12 42 3 – 5
Voil Sorcerer 82 14 10 11 12 42 3 – 5
Voil Transporter 68 5 10 11 7 41 1
Voil Transporter 68 5 10 11 7 41 1

SPELL COST
Avalanche 40
Avalanche 40
Bad Blood 50
Bad Blood 50
Implant 35
Implant 35

RELIC COST DEF HP
Echo Chamber 45 9 21
Echo Chamber 45 9 21
Moga Bartering Post 25 20 12
Tribal Post 20 9 21

EQUIPMENT COST
Slaver's Whip 40
Slaver's Whip 40

liniques deck best cyclops ive seen this expac

[pouna]

Code:

CHAMPION COST ATK DEF SPD DAM HP RNG
Alpine Cyclops 72 17 10 9 14 47 1
Alpine Cyclops 72 17 10 9 14 47 1
Calcified Lurker 78 11 16 9 8 49 1
Calcified Lurker 78 11 16 9 8 49 1
Cyclops Battlefiend 64 5 30 7 6 58 1 – 2
Cyclops Earthshaker 59 12 11 11 10 45 1
Cyclops Earthshaker 59 12 11 11 10 45 1
Cyclops Nemesis 47 11 11 11 16 52 1
Cyclops Nemesis 47 11 11 11 16 52 1
Lightning Elemental 84 10 11 11 9 40 2 – 5
Moga Cannon 83 10 10 11 10 54 4 – 6
Moga Cannon 83 10 10 11 10 54 4 – 6
Vengeful Cyclops 72 11 14 9 12 49 1
Vengeful Cyclops 72 11 14 9 12 49 1
Voil Sorcerer 82 14 10 11 12 42 3 – 5
Voil Sorcerer 82 14 10 11 12 42 3 – 5
Voil Transporter 68 5 10 11 7 41 1
Voil Transporter 68 5 10 11 7 41 1

SPELL COST
Avalanche 40
Avalanche 40
Bad Blood 50
Bad Blood 50
Implant 35
Implant 35

RELIC COST DEF HP
Echo Chamber 45 9 21
Echo Chamber 45 9 21
Moga Bartering Post 25 20 12
Tribal Post 20 9 21

EQUIPMENT COST
Slaver's Whip 40
Slaver's Whip 40

liniques deck best cyclops ive seen this expac

^^^^^^Horrible^^^^^^

I think it is barely a cyclops deck more of a LAME. I mean really 9 out of 30 is awful