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Svxji
07-31-2008, 04:06 AM
That says it all, what u think of it? 10 space copy? whuld be awsome against Lk's and other f***ers

TMPGoB
07-31-2008, 04:55 AM
It's definitly a good add to SP which needed alot help.

Can't wait to try this !

1lordofwar
07-31-2008, 07:50 AM
These new champs so far are definately 3 for 3. I could see running each one in a BG; all very unique, good flavor, and great artwork. I am thinking this next expansion might be the best one yet.

Specifically, the new SP rune will be a great addition.

Jorth
07-31-2008, 08:27 AM
I think its a fun rune for sure, but I think people will find less use for it than it initially sounds like.

For instance, you are going to want to copy a rare or exotic mostly, now if you are SP and copy a Dking, how are you going to use him? Gather your little Moga and risk getting AoE'd down? Or his Warcry may go to waste alot. If you copy a Lich, can the rest of the deck keep up with his teleporting. There are of course other targets but most of the power of an Exotic or even Rare like a Pit Dragon or something is from the faction synergy, you won't have any beckon demon to move the pit dragon around, just small things like that.

I can see it getting played, maybe 1x in most decks, just as you might find something good to copy, but its not always going to fit in with the way moga plays.

Linque
07-31-2008, 08:35 AM
It's an excellent rune to counter supreme enemy champions. I am definitely going to use them a lot.

However, I think you should only be able to copy enemy runes, not your own. It's broken if you're able to copy own units (Voil Sorcerer comes to mind).

LordSerkan
07-31-2008, 08:42 AM
Note the part about the unit only being able to copy something the same size. It is size: normal, which means no copying any 2x2 runes such as a pit dragon.

It'll be interesting to see if, when it copies another unit, it is as if that unit was just summoned. For example, if you copy a lich king, will the immortality cause the normal 5hp hit to the shrine?

This almost seems too powerful a champ, to me. I mean, a rare that can take on the form of an exotic and at such a huge range? It only costs 70 nora for this champ, but it could take on the form of a 100 nora exotic, which not only means you're, in effect, getting an exotic for a rare, but you're also gaining 30 nora (or whatever the nora difference is between the unit you copy and the base 70 cost on the Clay Form. I think it'll be interesting to see how this gets changed in beta, if at all.

LS

fireball94
07-31-2008, 09:09 AM
Note the part about the unit only being able to copy something the same size. It is size: normal, which means no copying any 2x2 runes such as a pit dragon.

It'll be interesting to see if, when it copies another unit, it is as if that unit was just summoned. For example, if you copy a lich king, will the immortality cause the normal 5hp hit to the shrine?

This almost seems too powerful a champ, to me. I mean, a rare that can take on the form of an exotic and at such a huge range? It only costs 70 nora for this champ, but it could take on the form of a 100 nora exotic, which not only means you're, in effect, getting an exotic for a rare, but you're also gaining 30 nora (or whatever the nora difference is between the unit you copy and the base 70 cost on the Clay Form. I think it'll be interesting to see how this gets changed in beta, if at all.

LS

It will be changed for sure. Obviously overpowered. If I'm not mistaken, on deploy effects don't activate. So Immortality and the like wouldn't work.

Typhrex
07-31-2008, 09:35 AM
yes it is a little over powered but SP is a little weak right now and really needed it maybe it shouldn't copy your own runes but only enemy's rune

Linque
07-31-2008, 10:47 AM
As long as it can't copy your own units, it might not be overpowered. It would still be pretty powerful, though. But the restrictions it has are good.

DevilAngl
08-01-2008, 02:47 AM
dwarf king with mogas would be sick

Zetsu12
08-01-2008, 08:47 AM
I think it's pretty balanced and they should test it. If it does get out of hand maybe reduce his hp, range of copy ability or Idk what else. :(

troost0
08-01-2008, 09:10 AM
sp finnally gets a good rune so its OP? we'll first c how it goes if it includes almost always autowin.
then i agree but till now the only rune that did that was slag(god i hate him)
to be honest i dont think it will be a THAT good rune you can have your opponent best rune sure but u gotta have lucky with that to. and btw if they have your best rune so do you.. so it'l just be who plays the best. should be a tier 3 exo though

fireball94
08-01-2008, 09:13 AM
sp finnally gets a good rune so its OP? we'll first c how it goes if it includes almost always autowin.
then i agree but till now the only rune that did that was slag(god i hate him)
to be honest i dont think it will be a THAT good rune you can have your opponent best rune sure but u gotta have lucky with that to. and btw if they have your best rune so do you.. so it'l just be who plays the best. should be a tier 3 exo though

Rarity doesn't equal power.

HonrKnight
08-01-2008, 02:02 PM
This almost seems too powerful a champ, to me.

I would agree, if I thought SP had any other decent champs in their arsenal. I mean, yeah, Voil Sorc is good, but requires tons of other bats/voils to make him viable. Aside from that, every champ rune is more expense than it's worth except in giant swarms.

Honestly, I think this will be a much-needed boost to SP. I only wish ST could get the same kind of power boost (although the rune previewed for them wasn't too bad).

ForestQueen
08-01-2008, 08:07 PM
it loosk to me that this is gonna be mroe of a new ability expansion, out of the like 3 runes ive seen 6 or 7 new abilties, the new ruens could prob change gameplay with all the debuffing they'll do. It seems quite unique

ForestQueen
08-01-2008, 08:08 PM
I would agree, if I thought SP had any other decent champs in their arsenal. I mean, yeah, Voil Sorc is good, but requires tons of other bats/voils to make him viable. Aside from that, every champ rune is more expense than it's worth except in giant swarms.

Honestly, I think this will be a much-needed boost to SP. I only wish ST could get the same kind of power boost (although the rune previewed for them wasn't too bad).

the shatterd peaks pox harbringer, duhh. run at 105 and it owns, i use it with a unstable ground, avalanche and a cyclops eye belt, nobody can TOUCH her.

troost0
08-02-2008, 01:07 AM
Rarity doesn't equal power.

no but i think everybody agrees with that its going to be an exo and the tiers does stand for power

Strings
08-03-2008, 05:05 AM
Rarity does not equal power. Saying "oh, that rune looks good, it should be an exotic" as a general remark, or as a way to make people stop saying its OP is a realy stupid thing to say.

Because a faction might be doing badly does not mean they should gain OP runes to help them. This leads to crutch runes with means that the factions general problems will not be solved because of X rune, or X rune will be nerfed returning the faction to where they were.

I realy am sick of people saying things like "Oh, it 'might' be OP, but they're doing badly" as if that gives reason to having broken runes....

Im not here talking about the this runes power, simply ranting about pointless remarks i am hearing more and more.

mrobviousj
08-03-2008, 05:16 AM
These new champs so far are definately 3 for 3. I could see running each one in a BG; all very unique, good flavor, and great artwork. I am thinking this next expansion might be the best one yet.

Specifically, the new SP rune will be a great addition.
Yep. I agree with all your points. ;)

fireball94
08-03-2008, 07:01 AM
no but i think everybody agrees with that its going to be an exo and the tiers does stand for power

That won't happen as the only exos are going to be the 8 Titans. The rest of the runes are going to be commons, uncommons, and rares. Rarity only equals uniqueness in my honest opinion.

snow1wolf
08-03-2008, 03:01 PM
These new champs so far are definately 3 for 3. I could see running each one in a BG; all very unique, good flavor, and great artwork. I am thinking this next expansion might be the best one yet.

Specifically, the new SP rune will be a great addition.

well it think it's value comes more from being able to directly counter an opponets deck no matter what the deck is. It is by far without a doubt the best situational rune the greens have come out with.
Lets say you are facing a fire deck have this sucker copy a sheoul or other fire immune enemy champ and you suddenly have a very useful tool against that deck type same with the other theme and elemental based decks.

Let us not forget the efficentcy of this champion you are effectivly getting a champion much more valuable than 70 nora for that price.

20question
08-04-2008, 08:42 AM
I think it is just gunna be like the slag.

fireball94
08-04-2008, 02:32 PM
I think it is just gunna be like the slag.

Trust me, even in it's current overpowered position, it won't.

Svxji
08-05-2008, 04:45 AM
Trust me, even in it's current overpowered position, it won't.

well depening on AP cost of the CLone, and if it can attack instant after clone, then it will be a real pain!

Sunnydays
08-05-2008, 06:01 PM
Rarity doesn't equal power.

lol when i read this all i could think of is haunt, a clear example of how rarity does not = power
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