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skuzzel
08-24-2008, 01:08 AM
I'm having trouble picking one for in my highlander BG.

Your thoughts?

Phyti
08-24-2008, 01:28 AM
Cecaelia.

tenletters.

prsasuke
08-24-2008, 01:35 AM
Cecaelia.

tenletters.

what he say

TheScathed
08-24-2008, 03:55 AM
Marsh Troll is a tank, though. Depends on what the rest of your deck is.

pan1x
08-24-2008, 05:58 AM
cecaelia for alt dmg type, lower nora cost, and crowd control.

Artegot
08-24-2008, 07:14 AM
Cecealia all the way

skuzzel
08-24-2008, 09:50 AM
is there some one who can provide reasons please. I know the general consensus of FS about the two cards. I geuss I need some explaining.

cecaelia for alt dmg type, lower nora cost, and crowd control.

what?

Alt damage type? Thier are about the same number of runes in my BG that have psy as phsyical. They have the SAME base nora cost.

Stat wise marsh troll beats her, at 12 damage to her 9, and 50 health to her 40 (she has one more speed than him). The real question becomes whether or not her abilities can make up enough ground for her. It's about a 12-13 nora gap she has to overcome.

Marsh troll
Vul fire
Resistance poison
Regeneration 3

Cecailia
semi-aqua
bastion of iron will
charm 2


She has semi-aqua, he has vul to fire, I would say the vul to fire is better. He has resistance poison, she has BoIW, BoIW is better. Regen 3 and bind are roughly comparable.

So really the qeustion is whether or not charm 2 is whorth 12-13 nora.

pan1x
08-24-2008, 11:39 AM
is there some one who can provide reasons please. I know the general consensus of FS about the two cards. I geuss I need some explaining.



what?

Alt damage type? Thier are about the same number of runes in my BG that have psy as phsyical. They have the SAME base nora cost.

Stat wise marsh troll beats her, at 12 damage to her 9, and 50 health to her 40 (she has one more speed than him). The real question becomes whether or not her abilities can make up enough ground for her. It's about a 12-13 nora gap she has to overcome.

Marsh troll
Vul fire
Resistance poison
Regeneration 3

Cecailia
semi-aqua
bastion of iron will
charm 2


She has semi-aqua, he has vul to fire, I would say the vul to fire is better. He has resistance poison, she has BoIW, BoIW is better. Regen 3 and bind are roughly comparable.

So really the qeustion is whether or not charm 2 is whorth 12-13 nora.

Just count me out of the discussion, there's too much to chime in on.

TheScathed
08-24-2008, 12:06 PM
is there some one who can provide reasons please. I know the general consensus of FS about the two cards. I geuss I need some explaining.



what?

Alt damage type? Thier are about the same number of runes in my BG that have psy as phsyical. They have the SAME base nora cost.

Stat wise marsh troll beats her, at 12 damage to her 9, and 50 health to her 40 (she has one more speed than him). The real question becomes whether or not her abilities can make up enough ground for her. It's about a 12-13 nora gap she has to overcome.

Marsh troll
Vul fire
Resistance poison
Regeneration 3

Cecailia
semi-aqua
bastion of iron will
charm 2


She has semi-aqua, he has vul to fire, I would say the vul to fire is better. He has resistance poison, she has BoIW, BoIW is better. Regen 3 and bind are roughly comparable.

So really the qeustion is whether or not charm 2 is whorth 12-13 nora.

Well with an enemy Bastion around, that charm becomes pretty useless...

Fomies
08-26-2008, 07:04 PM
Remember the Marsh troll does not start with Amphibious although it is available as an upgrade so if you plan on playing with bog trap or any impeding water he is going to suffer.

On the other hand Cecaelia is Semi Aquatic so she really shines if there is water nearby (the +1 speed is great but don't forget the free +1 damage too). My battle group that has her in it has an easy time creating a lot of water but it's not highlander. Obviously she alone is not worth adding water creation runes to your deck but if they are going to be there anyway I would prefer the Cecaelia.

KingSwampy
08-26-2008, 07:16 PM
Depending on what role your gonna use, Cecaelia all the way unless you need a cheap and partially long lasting tank/meat shield.

Wraith74
08-26-2008, 07:20 PM
Kingswampy stole my post >.>

yodacon
08-27-2008, 12:27 AM
Just found that Bind triggers if an enemy uses teleport to disengage. Whooo Cecaelia! In your face Lich King.

So yeah she's got that going for her too.

skuzzel
08-27-2008, 08:04 PM
They both would play basicaly the same role in my BG, and that is to help take out ranged damagers.

If either one of them goes up against one ranged unit, the ranged unit will probably end up dead. Both have the added luxury of being able to take out units even in a group setting. Cec is better in a group though, but marsh is better on his own.

It's actually a hard choice. I have yet to make it, Im still testing out cec.

pan1x
08-27-2008, 10:48 PM
If you're using it to take out ranged attackers, I have no clue why you wouldn't use Cecaelia automatically. Bind does 10 dmg to a unit just for disengaging it. If your enemy brings in a beater to give you trouble, charm him and continue to chase the ranged.