Xulos's Range

[Colmer]

Earlier i was playing in a match with my xulos realising that his range mabye 2-5 but really for a expensive range unit thats not too far when u have most exoitcs reaching 4-7 or 3-6 or even 2-6 as a hero surely he should be as good as the others what do you think ?

Regards
Colmer

[Sammich]

He's got his own benefits, and FW isn't really based around crazy range (ignore the LK, he's a long-standing exception). 2-5 is a REALLY good range, and his Drain attack can cover melee range, so he's actually closer to 1-5. His other abilities are better than a lot of the other Hero secondary abilities. Oh, and he's STILL better than Gnark or Dirge.

So nah, he's good where he is.

[GEorGERMn]

I think players would have a problem with him if he was given too much range. You see, Xulos needs a weekness and that weakness is his range and that works into his troubles with survivability. If it wasn't for these two aspects, he might have been given a vulnerability just to make him easier to fight against.

Besides, we already have the Lich King.

[sciroppo]

i think my sheoul demon should do 25 base damage because he´s an exo and my pit dragon is only rare...

[Gygge]

His range is fine, as George already said.

[barcibus]

Earlier i was playing in a match with my xulos realising that his range mabye 2-5 but really for a expensive range unit thats not too far when u have most exoitcs reaching 4-7 or 3-6 or even 2-6 as a hero surely he should be as good as the others what do you think ?

Regards
Colmer

This is what happens when you think the Lich King's range is ok.

[nafnaf47]

This is what happens when you think the Lich King's range is ok.

no that is what can happen when you play Xulos, I felt the need of 1 more range as well but didn't voice it then as I felt the same as George.
Isn't one thread talking of Lich King enough? must you spam it in every thread?

[Xiape]

As was said, he's strong as is now. Range 2-5 is still pretty good.

[soulwarder]

Colmer I can see where you're coming from, even one more range would make Xulos a lot more potent. But there in lays the trouble, he's pretty balanced now, as a deadly tool in the right hands. But he has to be in the right hands because if you're not careful he's a broken tool (something I'm still mastering btw :p) and honestly I think he servers and a good example of how rune balance can work. Give me a strong rune what combines well with others and build a BG, I'd rather a game build around that than groups of Uber runes all thrown together slugging it out. (I don't think that you were suggesting such a thing of course, but I do think that buffing some runes would lead to an "arms race" of sorts which would ultimately invalidate itself by having everything buffed so in effect nothing improves in it's usefulness. It's the mirror twin of the excessive nerf calls we see on the forums today).

Good question tho and keep 'em commin' it's always better to discuss an idea than do nothing with it :)

Cheers,
Soul

[snow1wolf]

I think the biggest problem with xulos is not his range but his cost if his special abilities were made into upgrades instead of base he would be much better and more varied. How far to take this is up for debate of course.

[Cagri38]

i think he is fine for its range because
1.its a hero
2.it costs 120+nora 200spent cp
3.its not that strong without tomb lords.

[Bleakheart]

I think players would have a problem with him if he was given too much range. You see, Xulos needs a weekness and that weakness is his range and that works into his troubles with survivability. If it wasn't for these two aspects, he might have been given a vulnerability just to make him easier to fight against.

Besides, we already have the Lich King.

Well said.

i think my sheoul demon should do 25 base damage because he´s an exo and my pit dragon is only rare...

Your sheoul demon also eats fire, has a horrific aura, and essence drain. He would be insanely expensive if he had base 25 >< Not to mention he would have 30 with the faction bonus o.O