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Ajvanden
08-04-2008, 08:12 PM
Hey, I don`t know if this fits into any specific strategy, but it is somewhat effective.
2x Lich King Teleport 2 and nora 99
Draco-lich disease breath 3, regeneration 2, magic immunity, spd 11, nora 109
Draco-lich disease breath 3, regeneration 2, spd 11, nora 99
Dead Fairy nora 83
Bile Zombie nora 31
2x Tomb Lord, fully upgraded, nora 96
Tormented Priest, Fester, Tormented, spd 9 nora 80
2x Zombie Behemoth, Fire Vulnerability nora 60

Festering Wounds, 2x Mobilization, Elsarin Vex, Unholy Tomb, Tome of Hate, Crown of Corruption, Fleshewn helm, Sacrificial Dagger

Obviously I have spent a lot on these runes, when I got the Fairy and the Crown, I was sick to have to let go of my 99 nora Necrotaur and my Soul Siren.

Please, I want to make the ultimate BG as you can see.

Thanks

Worldmaker
08-04-2008, 08:23 PM
Your deck is very expensive and has no theme, and lacks synergy.

Running two Lichbound Behemoths with only two Liches (LKs) is asking for first-draw trouble.

Your Tormented Priest is costly and they're not terribly great champs without Afflicted Corpses to amp their attack damage.

You've got a lot of champs far from cutoff points for cooldowns.

Your Draco-liches are overcosted. Running one Magic immune is worthwhile. Running two with Regen 2 and all the goodies is asking to be Nora-starved too often.

Essentially, you need to rethink your entire deck and include some cheaper melee, possible ranged support (Crossbones with Tomb Lords) and drop to 1 Behemoth if you're not running another Lich (Anthropomancers are popular for Curse 2, or a Cleric for Invigorate 2, possibly a Toll-taker or Soul Collector).

You're just trying to fit too much into it. Exos are staples of FW, but a good FW deck runs on a mix of rarity, playing to the strengths of the more expensive runes being run.

Gawdzilla
08-04-2008, 08:32 PM
where do ppl get all these exos , and have no pox skill , but yeah what maker said.

LucyBanana
08-04-2008, 09:38 PM
I would suggest reading through Gorges sticky on runes thems and stradegies, it has a lot of really really great stuff in it!

GEorGERMn
08-04-2008, 11:00 PM
where do ppl get all these exos , and have no pox skill , but yeah what maker said.

Gawd don't insult other players please.

Wanana
08-04-2008, 11:12 PM
gawd was not insulting anybody, just making a true statement about pox in general. There are many players that have exos and dont know how to use them.

GEorGERMn
08-05-2008, 05:39 AM
gawd was not insulting anybody, just making a true statement about pox in general. There are many players that have exos and dont know how to use them.

It was still insinuated towards a player who just asked for help assembling his deck.

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My advice here is to lower your nora costs to something below 100.

Your tomb Lords should go below 85, and don't fully upgrade them.
Just use your Lich Kings are teleport 1. Teleport 2 isn't necessary.

ThePlumber
08-05-2008, 06:33 AM
You will find that teleport 2 on certain maps will help you get that font 1 turn quicker. I would definitely go for tele 2! I have tried it both ways and after falling 1 spot short of capping my font with tele 1, I switched to tele 2 and never looked back.

Worldmaker
08-05-2008, 06:45 AM
You will find that teleport 2 on certain maps will help you get that font 1 turn quicker. I would definitely go for tele 2! I have tried it both ways and after falling 1 spot short of capping my font with tele 1, I switched to tele 2 and never looked back.

I'll take 4-6 more damage on a Mobi turn with my LK over 1 extra movement space.

Ajvanden
08-05-2008, 06:47 AM
I have lots of answers and a lot more questions!

First Draco-lichs and TPs both count as lichs bringing the total to 5, making it possible to run the two behemoths.

You are right about running the TP with no upgrades.

I know there is no synergy, but basically the way this BG works is keep a behemoth out front and punish, punish, punish with the kings and dracos, inspiring any of the four like mad.

I only run the draco-lich at 109 because he has won me countless matches against menelaus, the arctic queen, lich-kings etc. Useful info for the newer players, retribution just bounces right off him.

I love the feed back so far, and I have been reading Georges` stuff, but he has nothing about running a BG with 2 kings and 2 dracos. Especially after I run all of my other exos, TLs, mobis, fester, where do I have room for these low nora champs?

Thanks

matki
08-05-2008, 07:18 AM
where do ppl get all these exos , and have no pox skill , but yeah what maker said.

from money

nuff said

LucyBanana
08-05-2008, 08:00 AM
I have lots of answers and a lot more questions!

First Draco-lichs and TPs both count as lichs bringing the total to 5, making it possible to run the two behemoths.

You are right about running the TP with no upgrades.

I know there is no synergy, but basically the way this BG works is keep a behemoth out front and punish, punish, punish with the kings and dracos, inspiring any of the four like mad.

I only run the draco-lich at 109 because he has won me countless matches against menelaus, the arctic queen, lich-kings etc. Useful info for the newer players, retribution just bounces right off him.

I love the feed back so far, and I have been reading Georges` stuff, but he has nothing about running a BG with 2 kings and 2 dracos. Especially after I run all of my other exos, TLs, mobis, fester, where do I have room for these low nora champs?

Thanks

I think the reason there arnt more BG's with 2 draco's and 2 LichKings is the nora cost involved, I do have certain BG's with 2 Lick Kings but most do just fine with 1, I only have 1 dracolich but I would suspect the same of them and if I'm running a draco I usually wont run more than 1 Lich King. I also run my draco lich at 104 nora , the only champ I run over 100 and in my opinion running more than 1 champ thats over a 100 nora is asking for first turn and or nora trouble.

you might also consider running only 1 behemoth, as a 2x2 that doesn't fly he is going to be difficult to manuever at times, I would recomend swapping atleast one out with an executioner.

your also running alot of equipment, I would drop the crown of Corruption personally as it doesn't mesh very well with your BG(unless you want to throw in a necrosis and a throw bones for an insta kill every 5 rounds, if so dropthe dagger and flesh helm)

I would also suggest swapping out a Mobilization for a hungry dead, I've found that a well placed casting of that spell can allow you to anialate more than one melee unit with a couple of ranged units like LichKings, it also does AOE damage itself, which is nice.

oh and you'll find room for your cheap champs when you realise how important/powerful they are with our low cooldowns :) take my 39 nora afflicted corpses as an example, you can kill them as many times as you want, with a 2 turn cooldown they will keep finding there way back on to the battle field :)

Worldmaker
08-05-2008, 12:26 PM
heh, yeah, I'm dumb. I forgot about Draco-LICH being a LICH. Man, great advice from me, there.

In that case, you're solid on the Lichbound issue, but you're still trying to deploy so much Nora value that at some point, you'll decide it's not working fast enough and you'll replace a few champs.

ThePlumber
08-05-2008, 12:41 PM
heh, yeah, I'm dumb. I forgot about Draco-LICH being a LICH. Man, great advice from me, there.

In that case, you're solid on the Lichbound issue, but you're still trying to deploy so much Nora value that at some point, you'll decide it's not working fast enough and you'll replace a few champs.

Goofball... Tormented Priest is a lich as well.

ThePlumber
08-05-2008, 12:43 PM
I'll take 4-6 more damage on a Mobi turn with my LK over 1 extra movement space.

Where does this extra 6 damage come from?