Cactuar Crate - Ronin Edition

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Sokolov, Jan 20, 2015.

  1. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    That is kind of the point. We have to recognize with an ability like this, the opponent is only getting a delayed advantage after 4 attacks, many turns later. It's not breaking even after 3 attacks - you are still well ahead as the player who got the initial discount because his nora gain was spread over time.

    That said, I'd like to hear other POVs on this one.
     
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  2. Cydna

    Cydna Forum Royalty

    I gotta say, i'm tired of all this nerfing. Not enough shoebox buffs.
     
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  3. SPiEkY

    SPiEkY King of Jesters

    I say nerf more.
     
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  4. heroex7777

    heroex7777 Lord of ST

    can we nerf taglar's equip, he's unbreakable with it. Then he throws on courage and has 9 armor. I hit him with a undebuffed champ and it did 0 damage and he still had 20+ hp.

    Tales of valor to 35 nora
    Tactical manual to 35 nora
    Taglar base defense -1 or
    hammerheart platemail -1 defense, 30 nora with a 25 refund? up it to 35 nora
    might of ironfist from 35 to 40

    Spike costs 35 and refunds 25.
     
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  5. Cydna

    Cydna Forum Royalty

    You hit my Talgar with a unit with Dissipitate lol.


    Edit: But yeah 5 nora for + 3 Def and Scale Armor is stupid.
     
  6. heroex7777

    heroex7777 Lord of ST

    yeah, dissipate on a 4-6 range i hit you at 4 range. He had 9 armor and scale armor so it did 0.
     
  7. heroex7777

    heroex7777 Lord of ST

    yes he is

    and where do i get a cluster of champions when talgar costs ~110 nora to be that buff, he probably has a cluster of champs too by the time i get one
     
  8. heroex7777

    heroex7777 Lord of ST

    i think champs whose sole purpose to relocate ally like voil transporter need a buff too

    and nerf KF 8 speeds
     
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  9. heroex7777

    heroex7777 Lord of ST

    oh and sandspray is still cd 2
     
  10. Cydna

    Cydna Forum Royalty

    Doesn't really to make sense to buff a unit that is already meta worthy.
     
  11. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Transporter also doubles as a font grabber on maps where cheap, 6 speed flying is useful, and is a great detection source.
     
  12. heroex7777

    heroex7777 Lord of ST

    63 isn't that cheap >.>

    btw, I think mogas should lose ghernbound now that they're mostly 40-50+ nora. Maybe if they're in range of a ghern give them a extra buff
     
  13. JaceDragon

    JaceDragon I need me some PIE!

    the heroes equip are stupid for the crazy refound they give.

    No refound, and they are good, 35 nora for +3 def and scale armor are ok.
     
  14. darkpally5

    darkpally5 I need me some PIE!

    Not gonna run a champ just for flying, much better to just run something that has another purpose plus flying.
    Discussed this with a friend yesterday, ghernbound is really bad right now, risen moga is in this price range without ghern bound at all, might as well just make gherns give moga buffs and increase nora costs as needed.
     
  15. JaceDragon

    JaceDragon I need me some PIE!


    Shielded? YEs please give shielded back to talgar, and impenetralbe on Euan
     
  16. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Of course they wouldn't. His other purpose is being a great ferry and detection source. That's pretty clear.
     
  17. Jib

    Jib Better-Known Member

    What I love about Talgar is the -5 nora he's about to get.
     
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  18. WhatTheHex

    WhatTheHex The King of Potatoes

    Just run drown. Lel noobs.
     
  19. JaceDragon

    JaceDragon I need me some PIE!

    and you pay only 96 nora (91 + 5 for equip) and 20 for banner, so 116 nora.

    But here we are! It's talgar stupid, or the fact you pay only 5 nora for +3 def and scale armor?

    As i said, the refound on equip should go, and let's see. It would be 136 nora for a 63hp 6 def scale armor unit, which is fine imo.



    But we can talk about klub uhm? So please, don't came here and say bullshit about talgar, here the real problem are the heroes equips
     
  20. JaceDragon

    JaceDragon I need me some PIE!

    It's funny you call me a zealot when i just did a comparision with 2 scala armor 6 def champ.

    I'm defending talgar? Yes and no, i'm pointed the real issue with him, his equipment at 5 nora.
    I say change the refound thing, with ALL the heroes equip and see what happen. I'm pretty tired of all the over nerf (yeah i'm talking to you bloodbow).
    And however 91 nora, because init2 is too good.
    (dirge isn't tanky but is very cheap for what he brings)
     

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