KF/SL Energy Overload

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by profhulk, Jun 16, 2015.

  1. profhulk

    profhulk Forum Royalty

    Something needs to be done about this. I have no desire to play against this split. If you are able to rush shrine sure it is easily overcome. However once your opponent gets the ball rolling it is fairly easy to stall and gain massive amounts of nora with Infestors out. At a certain point in the game opponent can draw win by building up enemies nora with energy overload and destroying shrine. My solution is to remove Energy Overload until you find a solution. It is interesting to watch Ipox create these bg but painful to have to see pathetic players abuse the bg to get wins. Allowing abuse like this run rampant surely can't be good for the game.
     
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  2. profhulk

    profhulk Forum Royalty

    How hard is it to remove Energy Overload from ranked? No one runs it except for Ipox and the other Firk face I d/c on today who is copying Ipox bg to get wins. Clearly Ipox has moved on to playing grab ass with a bog pearl and a pair of lonx facilitators.
     
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  3. Willow

    Willow I need me some PIE!

    Say the name! Say it's kalasle!
     
  4. profhulk

    profhulk Forum Royalty

    Kalasle is running this too? These bg should be restricted to Ipox use only.
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  5. Boozha

    Boozha I need me some PIE!

    Kalasle is doing it to teach people to adapt. So adapt, will you
     
  6. profhulk

    profhulk Forum Royalty

    It is possible to adapt to it if I have a good early game draw. At some point I think the pox population will come to the realization that this kf/sl split is a cancer comparable to the unbalanced ap control decks of old. You remember the good old days of wretched witch, magnetic rover, and endless black label brews/ lame fw equips? Remember how fun that was to adapt to? One turn the wretched witches and magnetic rovers or lose. Nothing to one turn in this kf/sl energy overload split. Rush or die. Infestors become your champs so enjoy all the free nora. At the end of this game Energy Overload blows up your shrine. What is their to adapt to? I don't get it. Bullshit like this is why this game fails.
     
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  7. Boozha

    Boozha I need me some PIE!

    AP denial I adapted to with the surrender button becauseI could not be arrrrrsed. This new stuff is far less annoying. I'd like to have the people that played Wretched Witches and Rovers back in the day de-fe-nes-tra-ted. This stuff at leastonly takesa few minutes to kill you.

    Also, backlash or channel can win you the game, possibly, if you are good and lucky at the same time.
     
  8. Ohmin

    Ohmin Forum Royalty

    I'm torn between the silly nature of your statement (restricting any deck to specific players only) and my love of the .gif

    That .gif is adorabear.
     
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  9. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Toss Equipment now has a CD of 1. We are working on fixing it so it doesn't count as a destroy action, but that'll come later.
    Energy Overload has been temporarily removed from ranked.

    Is there a bug with Arcane Maelstrom allowing it to affect opponent's runedocks?
     
  10. profhulk

    profhulk Forum Royalty

    Is there a bug with Arcane Maelstrom allowing it to affect opponent's runedocks?[/QUOTE]
    fixed
    No I misread the description.
     
  11. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Haven't ranked in a couple days, but yes, am playing this. I think one or two other people are as well. Run Backlash, Nora Leech, a spell Seal (only some work), or rush. Honestly, a competent and hyper-aggressive rush gives the BG a hell of a hard time. Don't play scared.

    Removing Overload from ranked seems like an ok solution -- the combo still works, but you don't get the instant kill with it, and have to flood your opponent. Time to figure out a replacement rune, and fall back on that Adaptive alt wincon.
     
  12. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Someone needs to run the math on the actual chances of a degenerate draw versus an opponent with some number of straight outs.
     
  13. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    I have no respect for people who bandwagon iPox bgs.
     
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  14. Boozha

    Boozha I need me some PIE!

    With one change you ruin four BG's :p Had to happen at some point, but I didn't expect youto be so quick with it
     
  15. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Sorry to hear about everyone's negative reaction to another person running a BG.

    I took the basic combo core and then put it in a modified shell. I'd say I spent about as much time teching the deck, figuring out how it works and improving it as iPox did. That's the path by which decks and ideas develop and improve. My interest in rank or wins is tangential to using the ranking systems as a process for working with the BG.
     
  16. Skeezick

    Skeezick Forum Royalty

    kk
    shameless copycat
     
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  17. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Yes. Pretty much. Apparently there is an enormous stigma against that in Pox.
     
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  18. Skeezick

    Skeezick Forum Royalty

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  19. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Can you speak to the longer-term plans about these two interactions?
     
  20. Goyo

    Goyo I need me some PIE!

    I had respect for you green giant :(
     

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