Throne of the Circle nerf

It's kind of neither here nor there. When I don't nerf something for too long, people complain about that too

In this case, there was, to me, a reasonable nerf that could be done without code change that I felt didn't shoebox the rune, so I did it.

And now based on feedback, I am considering a different change (which WOULD require some extra code time), but I wouldn't say it is necessarily the "better" way.

I agree with you though, I usually don't think faster is the better way, but in this case, it seemed like the right thing to do AND was fast. And I always prefer simple changes over full redesigns because you end up introducing a lot of additional variables.

 

I take feedback and make decisions. That's all I can do. Sometimes you will agree, sometimes you won't.

 

I'll test it. Looks like for some reason, Grand Entrance is preventing Amp Magic from working in some cases, very odd.

I'll replace it with the old Spell Resistance/Magic Nova ability for now.

So Throne will be global Magic Nova and Spell Resistance (no Magic Amp) for now.

 

I've been looking at Wizards/Fae, Magic Amp since Tiny started with some of these runes weeks ago. It's partly where the Fae nerfs came from.

As I said, this patch was just stuff leftover that didn't make it to the mid-term launch (which had a hard date).

Like right now, I am already getting Expansion 28 patch ready and I am designing runes for Expansion 29, by the time Expansion 28 patch actually comes out weeks will have gone by from the stuff I am doing now. So what you see in a patch could have been added a few days before it came out, or weeks before it came out.

In the case of ability changes, it could be a month or two sometimes (because priorities shift and things get punted).

I don't understand why when something is nerfed the entire BG is "nerfed into the abyss." Why is it that no matter how I nerf something it is always considered to swing from OP to shoebox? I don't really understand this rhetoric. I NEVER try and shoebox stuff. That is never my goal. Are wizards shoebox now? I don't understand.

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Ultimately, it doesn't matter what I change or when... some will be say changes happen too fast, too often. Others will say it takes too long to nerf stuff.

Sometimes, I am told that I listen to players too much and that's why everything is terrible. But then when I nerf something people didn't talk about, I am asked "Who asked for a nerf to that?"

So basically I can't win because it doesn't matter when or how something changes, there's a way to claim it's wrong.

Also, it seems whatever gets played gets called OP, so if I nerfed everything that people said was OP... I'd be nerfing all day, every day, so that's really not what happens

 

So here's how I decide what to nerf:

• I play games
• I watch games
• I look at data
• I take feedback from players
• I look at runes/abilities and compare to other ones

All that combined gives me some ideas as to what might be problematic - sometimes it's an individual change, sometimes it affects many champs (for example, right now I am iteration over ranged champions and making small adjustments to most).

If someone complains about something, I usually push them to explain why they feel that way (whether I agree or not, I do this to get the proper feedback). Sometimes, I will go play it myself, and look for games where people are playing it. I also confer with the data to see if that tells me anything about the situation.

Of course, at the end of the day, I have to make a decision. Sometimes I make good ones, sometimes I don't, but it's not like I just take random people's feedback and put it into the game.