Dispel and Cleanse

In KF Flamemage of the Circle has cleansing flame.

 

Dammit so ST is the only one without it?
@Sokolov , I will leave this to your hands.

 

Buff ST plz. Give Amp frost back to Icewisp or Icecasters or Elementalist.

 

I agree don't be a zealot. Put it on a sucky unrunnable rune so they can't say anything. Pede gets his rune but no one will run it. Everyone is happy!

 

So the freeze bug it is then. sok make it happen.

 

I know Jakei Maiden needs Stun taken off. Why not kill two birds with one stone and give replace Stun with Dispelling Attack. ST would then have access to Dispel but it would be incredibly difficult to use.

Come on, Sok, troll ST by doing this!

 

Unfixable bug: grants invulnerability to nearest enemy champion.

 

I have a problem until something like Purge exist.

 

Hey, I already got my rune that no one runs (see Jakei Warfoot).
@All you guys trolling: no matter which rune its in, even Maiden with Dispelling Attacks, it will be called OP so its all good.
For real, though, Sok, make it happen (please), even if its in the form of a crappy rune, I dont care. Just having it in the faction is enough. Sure sucks to be the only one left without it.

 

poor heal self =(

was supposed to be part of a heal train with empathize, and now with all the other heal sources we are getting you'd think it would catch on but it doesn't =(

 

not everything needs to be for pvp, maybe pve guys like ot have fun with empathy and healing hands ^^

 

st has had dispel so many times i've lost count for some stupid reason it keeps getting taken off every time we get a new designer.

the st angel was the first instance and that was years ago.

 

• Forced Evolution (FS Spell) - Cannot be Dispel/Cleanse
• Blood of the swamp (FS Spell) - Cannot be Dispel/Cleanse (note: the spell said it should be hidden until trigger but it is not [More note: it does not show animation or say anything in the log but the ability will be display on both players' end])
• Grow (Ability From Aspect of Growth) - Cannot be Dispel/Cleanse
• Intensify (Ability) - Cannot be Dispel
• Soul Siphon (Ability) - HP and dmg boost cannot be dispel
• Mirefolk Transcendence (Ability) - the granted Attack: Magical on any champion could not be dispel
• Adaption (Ability) - Any abilities gain from this cannot be dispel

Personal recommendation: Any condition that should not be Dispel/Cleanse should have "Gain X permanently", if the condition was meant not to be dispel/cleanse for the duration, it should have "This Effect cannot be Dispel/Cleanse"

 

It was my understanding that:

If it was Hidden before Trigger you can dispel, but only if it did not trigger yet.
If it was a status effect you can dispel.
If the rune gave an ability, then it can not be dispelled.
If an ability doesn't have a counter AKA Soul Siphon, then it can not be dispelled because it is not under an effect.

Yeah there are exceptions, but this was my understanding for the majority of how dispel worked.

 

• Reflesh - cannot be dispel/cleanse, those unit will still lose their "Boon of the Undead" after cleanse/dispel
• Touch of the death - cannot be dispel/cleanse
• Incorporeal (status granted by different sources excluding ghost) - Incorporeal gained by following abilities could not be dispel abilities:"Vaporize" "Phase Shift" "Ethereal" (did not test AA)
• Vampirism (Spell) - cannot be dispel, Life siphon remains
• Grace of the dead (ability)- buff cannot be dispel and therefore it will still heal
• KF's Font bonus (out of font) - It removed the buff on the bottom but mobility remains.
• Leech Vitality (ability) - needs to say gains HP permanently

 

Is it just me or is Dispell much better than clense? You can dispel your own champs or your opponents champs. Cleanse only works on friendly champs right?

We could update the abilities to one category and even them out since every faction now has access to it. Call it Disnse? That way wrath factions wont have the unbalancing advantage of being able to do both friend and foe while the poor prot factions can only clense friends.