Dispel and Cleanse

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Sokolov, Jan 21, 2015.

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  1. MovnTarget

    MovnTarget Forum Royalty

    You can dispel your own champs. That is ill advised though. Dispell would remove righteous deflection, but would not remove scoured.

    Dispel only removes positive effects and cleanse only removes negative effects.
     
  2. hfok

    hfok I need me some PIE!

    • X Form: not sure if they were meant to be dispel-able
      • Statue Form (Blackstone/Whitestone Gargoyle): can be dispel
      • Golem Form (Rock Guardian): cannot be dispel (Note: this is also very buggy, reactivating it after its cool down end gives the bonus again, stacking additive, HP bonus isn't capped at 100, see below)
    • Tales of Valor: cannot be dispel, should say permanently
    • Grant: X (Abilities): those granted abilities doesn't seems to be able to dispel, buffs gain from these could be dispel tho. (Note: only tested Grant: Fire trap, Rage potion, Healing potion, Stoneskin potion)
    • Macadamize (Spell) : Granted Domain rock cannot be dispel / should say grant Domain: Rock permanently

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  3. Nizzer11

    Nizzer11 Well-Known Member

    Ive had dispel remove stun on my opponents champs. Is this not accurate?
     
  4. MovnTarget

    MovnTarget Forum Royalty

    What did you use to dispel?
     
  5. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Pacified used to be Cleansable, but iPox (and others) abused the hell out of it.

    It could probably bear a re-visit at some point, or possibly removing the problematic sources of Truce (mostly the spell Truce, now, that Diplomat is gone).
     
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  6. hfok

    hfok I need me some PIE!

    Too lazy to carry more test, might continue later.
     
  7. calisk

    calisk I need me some PIE!

    I'm glad you mentioned this ^^

    ipox is going to take you down a walk through memory lane soon enough heh...
     
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  8. Bondman007

    Bondman007 I need me some PIE!

    Little late to the conversation...
    So does that mean that Fading Recollection should be cleansable?

    Nevermind, it says it cant be cleansed
     
  9. hfok

    hfok I need me some PIE!

    Hm... another question, should ability like Hold the line/Nexus aura be dispel-able?
     
  10. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    Hold the Line I think should be.

    Nexus Aura is in that borderline category both a positive, and negative effect depending on how it is used. I would say no.
     
  11. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    I agree
     
  12. Nebron

    Nebron I need me some PIE!

    I see what you did there
     
  13. Xiape

    Xiape I need me some PIE!

    Are you planning to do anything [rule text or otherwise] about "abilities are not conditions and so can't be dispelled or cleansed". Because apparently this issue still exists as evidenced by this thread. Tremor, Protection, and Doom all give abilities. Abilities are not conditions.

    They function like conditions and so semi-reasonable if you weren't paying attention to details.
     
  14. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    They should be dispellable unless otherwise stated. The game logic should be adding a condition (which is removable) that grants the ability. So you remove the condition, which then removes the ability.

    Doom willprobably not be removable tho, and will state so in the description (for balance reasons).
     
  15. JaceDragon

    JaceDragon I need me some PIE!

    tough from build 'em up can be dispelled?
     
  16. hfok

    hfok I need me some PIE!

    Can be.

    I really should've made a list of what I've tested and what didn't work.
    It's a bit too late now as I forgot what I've tested :(
     
  17. narvoxx

    narvoxx I need me some PIE!

    I can't check right now but I suspect Stitched Possession isn't cleansable nor dispellable. Also last time I checked it could target non-stitched champions
     
  18. Mister Tuggles

    Mister Tuggles I need me some PIE!

    Intensify on angels isn't being removed from cleansing fire.

    I assume this is working as intended, but just wanted clarification on it.

    I feel it should at least remove the countdown that round, and have it be reapplied on the angels next turn at full countdown, 10 turns.
     
  19. hfok

    hfok I need me some PIE!

    Bottom of Page 2, Sok said it should not be dispel/cleanse.
     
  20. Nora That

    Nora That I need me some PIE!

    that's kind of bullshit though, you just said spells should be removable, but no wait lets make an exception for the most OP ability in game = balance
     
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