Should thematic abilities always be an upgrade path?

And does this increase or decrease deck diversity?

 

I'm a newbie so you elaborate more what you mean? I might have an opinion if I knew what it was.

 

For example, on the IS Wings, champions like Scarlet Wing, Obsidian Wing, etc have their Sigil ability on base. Whereas some champs like Hyaenids have their Racial abilities on the upgrade trees.

I would vote, maybe.

Depends on the theme.

 

As in new abilities like reclaim materials, old abilities like skeezick alliance. Should they always be an upgrade path so that the player can "chose away from" the theme, and perhaps play the same rune in decks that aren't sandbagged with theme based abilities. Or should they be base abilities?

 

Hmm I can go with yes they should be an upgrade path diverisity for players is what keeps an mmo alive imo.

 

I voted yes, althought there are special instances in which it should be on base. (Lore/Theme staple rune)

 

It depends... Can't vote.

 

Unless it is some very flavourful/theme opening abillity I think that every racial, which procs a bonus from more units of the same race/class, should be on an upgrade path.

 

Voted no, because I think themes should be promoted,
and I believe that this would promote themes.
But I'm not adamant in my opinion.

Derived from DMr's example: You wouldn't want to play a Hyaenid outside a Hyaenid BG.
If all Champions had a thematic sandbag that would only work well within its theme, I believe that would be a good thing, because it would increase BG diversity, since it would punish general good-stuff BGs.

You would want to play a Champion outside it's theme because it offers something special, not because it's the most efficient Champion available to you.

 

I really would say most of the time "yes" but your pol states "Always" so I have to vote no here.

 

Theme abilities in upgrades makes a champion have more meta attractiveness since on base it could have a sand bag effect.

 

depend on the the themes like loess should be a their abilities on base but things such as goblins its not that important

 

Care to explain?

 

I would vote 'sometimes'.

Some champs you might want to be theme specific, or to be sandbagged outside the theme.

Other champs you might want to be meta champs with theme options.

 

There's also the issue of champions appearing in more than one theme to consider, take Garu Chosen for example: As both a Wizard and a Garu he can find places in both Wizards/Garu BG's, however one of his upgrade paths consists of Protective/Impenetrable/Hibernate. By having Protective as an upgrade this means the Chosen has the ability to customize his ability load out for each thematic BG, in Garu he usually grabs Protective and in Wizards he tends to grab Impen/Hiber.

So in answer to the OP's question: Sometimes.

 

If a rune only fits in one theme, then yes. Take Bloodhowler Alpha as an example. Its purpose is a melee beater in a Kanen BG. It has Unleash and Pack Leader on base.

Runes that fit in two themes could go two ways. First, they could be like Kiergana, with abilities for both themes on both trees so you could pick a build for either theme. Second, one theme could be chosen and the rune could be adjusted to have the thematic abilities on base with new upgrade trees. Then a second rune could be released to fill the other role that the rune filled initially. For Kiergana, that wouldn't work within the lore as she is both Kanen and Stitched, but I think it would work for other champs.

 

I didnt get the vote at first. Damn brazilians, dont know english well.