Is Shatter useless now?

Discussion in 'Underdepths' started by MakarovJAC, May 21, 2015.

  1. MakarovJAC

    MakarovJAC I need me some PIE!

    Everybody knows that DES is pretty much the got-to guy whenever you need some cheap Detection, and when you would like to have another way to deal with equipments on Shielded guys.

    And you can have 1 champion, and one equipment removal for the price of one moving around like the sneaky annoying ******* that he is until it's time to annoy your opponent even more.

    So, here's the question, are these spells we used for so long useless now? I have to admit, whenever I get the chance to get in some removal champions in my BGs, Demolish and Shatter are the first to make room for other stuff.

    And as I found with my UD Stealth BG, Shatter is not even necessary these days. So, what do you think?
     
  2. SMh7

    SMh7 The King of Potatoes

    I can play without detect in my fire BG, but not without Shatter and Demolish.
     
  3. saromon50

    saromon50 I need me some PIE!

    I find I have a hard time having my DES in the right place at the right time to get rid of that key piece of equipment. Having a spot shatter is very useful still.
     
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  4. Scrijordan

    Scrijordan I need me some PIE!

    He a great champ because he bring some many things to the table but spot on shatter is most of the time not useless but not need it
    i rather another dmg spell or a demon shield in my bg then shatter or demolish
     
  5. saromon50

    saromon50 I need me some PIE!

    I can accept that :)
     
  6. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    This. I run both DES and Shatter. DES wins me many games by various means and is my cheapest champ. Even without using pilfer.

    Shatter is required always.

    I see pilfer as a bonus on a cheap, effective champ.
     
  7. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    Slightly off topic but to address a similar point...

    My latest BG has neither sac nor retri.

    First time in eight years.
     
  8. saromon50

    saromon50 I need me some PIE!

    This is.... This feels.... wrong
     
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  9. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

    i don't run either DES or shatter
just run needleclaw or librarian
except for minotaur
     
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  10. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    I just can't get value out of librarian. I notice that he has become more of a ranged champ, which might make the difference. The scout just messes opponent's heads so often that I love him. Almost as much as my old pair of Pincushions. Burt and Ernie.
     

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