UD meta BG

Discussion in 'Underdepths' started by peolinen, Mar 12, 2015.

  1. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!

    Here's a question for dem experienced UD players: when do you add Masochism to the bg and when do you skip it?
     
  2. MEATMAN

    MEATMAN Forum Royalty

    not to say i'm all too experienced, I would say Mas is for when you need a defensive play. I usually lean more offensive on spells because that's what I like. Mas has it's uses though, always handy to have around.
     
  3. Revengercm

    Revengercm I need me some PIE!

    From your initial bg. I would replace vanguard with reaver or ireguard and maybe remove a sacrifice or dark pact and add mindstorm because... nohkan do
     
  4. drathys

    drathys I need me some PIE!

    I skip detection and use boomerang. you should be able to work out roughly where they are to get the hit off and then when you find them they have 10 hp left. Occassionally they will hide them behind their lines but usually they are off flanking to one side. I hate having champs there just for detection. persoanlly i haven't looked back. love boomerang. best UD spell prior to split personality...
     
  5. drathys

    drathys I need me some PIE!

    I really struggle with bane shift. i love the idea but found in game that it seems quite variable what and when it passes onto the enemy. if you could help i would love to use it more
     
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  6. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    I find Split Personality better than Bane Shift. I have no cleanse (unless the Demon Lich is nearby).

    My guy gets some nasty condition (bane) on my opponenet's turn.
    I SP the nearest big hitter on my turn.
    He hits me and so hits himself on his turn.
    Next turn my condition has worn off and I hit him.

    I like that with Ireguards.

    I REALLY REALLY value my Deep Elf Scout. He has won me so many games. Either with Pilfer or with Detect. Or with a double deploy turn two with a Deep Elf Merc. It is interesting to read that drathys rusn no detection. Brave!
     
  7. drathys

    drathys I need me some PIE!

    but i have 2 boomerangs, they find those pesky stealthed. tho i am tempted by DES...
     
  8. xplint

    xplint I need me some PIE!

    what about sheoul disicple? is she good for meta?
     
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  9. Burcho

    Burcho I need me some PIE!

    yes, maxx is very good and she costs 10 less with him out.
     
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  10. MEATMAN

    MEATMAN Forum Royalty

    Disciple is even good without maxx.
     
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  11. xplint

    xplint I need me some PIE!

    cool!! ive never played UD before, (i was playing fs, iS mostly) and since i returned after 3 months i was wondering how meta bg will look like
     
  12. xplint

    xplint I need me some PIE!

    what are the must have runes? 2 angel of pains worth it?
     
  13. Revengercm

    Revengercm I need me some PIE!

    Yes. Mostly on bleed theme but bleed isn't good right now.
    There are too many depending on the type of bg you want to build.
     
  14. MEATMAN

    MEATMAN Forum Royalty

    Bloodseeker and ariel on angels is great stuff.
     
  15. Ralphen

    Ralphen I need me some PIE!

    After some patches, anything new to play?
     
  16. Strings

    Strings Devotee of the Blood Owl

    I suggest trying the Murk Demon. 59 nora for Ethereal, stealth and shadowshift. His role is to get into the enemies font and stall there.

    Thanks to murk, detection is the only way to spot him. And thanks to ethereal he is hard to kill (despite his 36 HP) in skirmishes (also, murk means DoT will not de-stealth him). Plus with a demon shield he can be effectively immune from magic as well (rarely is it melee based).

    I've started running 2x Murk Demon and 2x Manslayer, along with 2x Echoes as well.

    Something like this: https://poxbase.com/deck/Ca4C3BcxC6-c60cw+coZCwNC5_C33c5=S2lS2Hs3osOsAs8@r2irAENe2g

    I've considered swapping Split Personality out after it's change (maybe for mindblast?). PoV is good for the double taps from Manslayer. And of course, you have 8 champs under 65 nora for Maxx (Pin, Guardian, Murk, Scout, Alc). Priestess feels like a needed include with Maxx, still.
     
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  17. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    Strings, I would love to give you a game to discuss UD tactics.

    Right now I am trying to run a BG without spells.
     
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  18. Goldleaf

    Goldleaf The King of Potatoes

    Whats everyone playing at the moment?..i like the look of engmal's bg
     
  19. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    Ireguards. Plus support.
     
  20. Goldleaf

    Goldleaf The King of Potatoes

    anyone else using goblin spellkaisers?
     

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