Assuming Boon was removed, How woudl you compensate various runes and themes?

Maybe we could get a good discussion going and help sok otu a bit.

 

Keep immune disease with the Nora decrease is the compensation

 

Not sure. I figure, at this point, there are only a couple important sources of disease damage on allies: Afflicted Corpse, Corpse Pile (and Infected Zombie), Desecration, and Disease Breaths. Aside from two aura sources and some AoE attacks, FW really doesn't pump out that much disease damage any more, especially with the change to Festering Wounds. It's at an awkward spot right now where removing disease Immunity would be irritating and a potential problem for a couple of runes, but not enough of a concern to justify the disease immunity in the first place, or really any compensation for it. Really not sure.

 

make dese damaging only enemies, aura as well
problem solved

 

That would be inconsistent with literally every other kind of Aura, no.

 

Honestly I feel people forgot that BOU nora gen is actually strong as its not affected by backlash.Combine it with dusk creeper and death harvester is OP if we lost it we will havr to rely on using cheaper champs to win

 

Not sure any number of qualifiers will make that a true statement.

 

Believe I had an old thread regarding this.

Basically the only problematic abilities regarding disease are the following in my mind:

Infectious = Now becomes a big problem as it makes the enemy champion able to infect your own units.

Lumbering + Disease Aura = mostly zombies. You could potentially work disease immunity or heck even eater into zombie plague.

Desecration = large AOE disease damage basically could get an enemy only clause or something.

Touch of Death - to some minor extent.

As for compensation I'd say removing the 4 nora from the ability is a pretty damn good start.

Otherwise replacing it with a themed 4 nora worth of ability of some sort.

 

Yo, Zombie Apoc should replace Swarm with Plague. They do so much incidental disease damage that Plague would fit better into their theme, and would be unique as a swarm mechanic. Maybe mod Apoc to give Disease Eater and conditional Plague?

 

if that happens will plauge be able to affect opponents FW champions?

 

Zombie plague is currently a 20 nora ability.

I would love to see Zombie Apocalypse basically be the sole container of zombie plague and lump in disease eater. After the revamp zombies lost a lot of auras from the theme which I was sad for but did gain some nice AoE.

Zombies for the most part would be the core candidates for disease eater as far as themes go.

All the other themes don't really have lumbering or positioning issues (beyond normal aura stuff) anyway.

 

obv. change other auras too -.-

 

Would be neat. On the flip side, not a big fan of anything that pushes the multiple undead sub-races away from each other. Still want the undead-unity dream to live on. Making it harder to keep the zombies and skeletons together just stinks, you know.

This would be a huge mess. That's going way too far for changing Boon, which is comparatively small.

 

Holy fark Boon makes some mirrors hell, though. Mainly the disease immunity.

 

Maybe you could straight up remove Boon and see what happens from there.

 

I feel that overall boon may be a little undercosted anyway if we are being honest. But still four nora cheaper on all units would be sweet

 

It's undercosted for what it gives, but what it gives is useless crap most of the time. Like, an 8 nora ability that gave Lightning Acolyte (10), Psychological Warfare (8), and Equipment Boon (10) would be undercosted as hell, but I wouldn't want it on any champion. Pretty sure literally every champ in FW would be better without Boon.

 

Pretty much that

 

Instead of Boon, you could have a half-faction bonus. That's pretty gross.

 

I don't think you guys realize the impact that bonus nora on globes have. 20% of each nora globe escalates pretty quickly in mid/late game stages.
I feel it should go as well, but don't think you guys will be better off without it because, well, I personally think it will screw every FW player out there.