UD Patch Breakdown

Discussion in 'Underdepths' started by Agirgis1, Aug 19, 2015.

  1. Agirgis1

    Agirgis1 Forum Royalty

    CHANGES INCLUDING ABILITIES ( COSTS BELOW)

    Champions
    ThunderHoof

    • Default Cost to 70
    • Upgrade Set 1: Charge 1, Charge 2, Charge 3 (default)
    K'lzik

    • Default Cost to 92
    • Upgrade Set 1: Surge: Arthropod (default)
    Succubus
    • Default Cost to 78
    • Starting Abilities: Flight, Life Siphon, Attack: Psychic
    • Upgrade Set 1: Charm 1, Charm 3 (default), Abash
    • Upgrade Set 1: Psychic Aura 3 (default), Energy Thief, Psychic Jab

    Deep Elf Summoner
    • Default Cost to 87
    • Upgrade Set 1: Summon: Young Imp (default)

    Nefari Siphon
    • Default Cost to 71
    • Upgrade Set 1: Burn 1 (default), Burn 2, Burn 3
    Screaming Imp
    • Default Cost to 75
    • Starting Abilities: Death Nova: Sonic, Attack: Sonic, Sonic Flight
    • Upgrade Set 1: Sonic Aura 2, Sonic Aura 3, Distract (default)
    Redcap Twins
    • Default Cost to 72
    • Damage increase (+1)
    • HP decrease (-4)
    • Starting Abilities: Rend, Attack: Physical, Bleed, Sibling
    • Upgrade Set 1: Raze, Vengeful (default)
    • Upgrade Set 1: Overkill: Healing, Bloodsplurt (default)
    Magma Elemental
    • Default Cost to 79
    • Upgrade Set 1: Explosive Attack 1 (default), Explosive Attack 2, Explosive Attack 3
    Nefari Fireslinger
    • Default Cost to 83
    • Starting Abilities: Vulnerability: Frost, Fire Eater, Attack: Fire
    • Upgrade Set 1: Flamestrike 3, Lava Storm (default), Burn 3
    • Upgrade Set 1: Escalation (default)
    Shadow Hunter
    • Default Cost to 73
    • Starting Abilities: Flight, Attack: Physical, Hunter: Meek
    Undertortoise
    • Default Cost to 69
    • Starting Abilities: Attack: Physical, Unstoppable, Turtle, heacy crosboew
    • Upgrade Set 1: Defender (default), Defensive Stance 3
    • Upgrade Set 1: Antagonize (default)
    Siege Monger
    • Default Cost to 66
    • Starting Abilities: Multiattack, Attack: Physical, Siege
    • Upgrade Set 1: Charge 1, Charge 2, Charge 3 (default)
    • Upgrade Set 1: Siege Lord, Seism (default)
    Broodmother
    • Default Cost to 74
    • Damage increase (+2)
    • Upgrade Set 1: Surge: Arthropod (default), Death Spawn: Spiderling, Protective
    Flame Skitter
    • Default Cost to 71
    • Upgrade Set 1: Burn 1 (default), Burn 2, Burn 3
    Norafire Elemental
    • Default Cost to 79
    • Upgrade Set 1: Explosive Attack 1 (default), Explosive Attack 2, Explosive Attack 3
    Grundelwulf Alpha
    • Default Cost to 72
    • Damage decrease (-2)
    • Upgrade Set 1: Reflection 4 (default), Deep Wounds
    Imp Vixen
    • Default Cost to 80
    • HP increase (+2)
    • Max Range increase (+1)
    • Starting Abilities: Flight, Attack: Psychic, Leech Vitality
    • Upgrade Set 1: Charm 2 (default), Charm 3, Mischief
    • Upgrade Set 1: Soul Siphon (default), Soulharvester 1
    Needleclaw Imp
    • Default Cost to 78
    • Starting Abilities: Flight, Attack: Physical, Bounty Hunter
    Goblin Arsonist
    • Default Cost to 64
    • Upgrade Set 1: Explosive Attack 2, Explosive Attack 3, Solar Flare (default)
    • Upgrade Set 1: Burn 1 (default), Burn 2, Burn 3
    Goblin Gloombringer
    • Starting Abilities: Attack: Magical, Reflection
    • Upgrade Set 1: Life Siphon (default), Paralytic Feedback, Leech Vitality
    Minotaur Gladiator
    • Default Cost to 88
    • Upgrade Set 1: Melee Specialist 3, Opportunistic Assault, Logistics: Flanking (default)
    Altered Lemure
    • Default Cost to 50
    • Starting Abilities: Attack: Poison, Latch On
    Minotaur Insurgent
    • Default Cost to 76
    • Upgrade Set 1: Charge 1, Charge 2, Charge 3 (default)
    Relics
    Lava Trap

    • Nora Modifier decrease (-5)
    Cursed Epitaph
    • Nora Modifier decrease (-5)
    • HP increase (+5) Starting Abilities: Backlash, Contaminate Nora
     
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  2. Agirgis1

    Agirgis1 Forum Royalty

    Bok Guardian
    Default Cost to 66

    Deep Elf Assassin
    Default Cost to 87

    Deep Elf Mercenary
    Default Cost to 58

    Deep Elf Scout
    Default Cost to 59

    Deep Elf Temptress
    Default Cost to 61

    Lavaflow Devourer
    Default Cost to 69

    Scorpic
    Default Cost to 69

    Gahlroon
    Default Cost to 82

    Goblin Archer
    Default Cost to 75

    Goblin Brute
    Default Cost to 71

    Grundelwulf
    Default Cost to 64

    Sheoul Demon
    Default Cost to 92

    Warogg
    Default Cost to 66

    Pox Harbinger
    Default Cost to 83

    Ash Demon
    Default Cost to 70

    Imp
    Default Cost to 74

    Nefari Dragon
    Default Cost to 74

    Fire Elemental
    Default Cost to 68

    Deep Elf Fire Dancer
    Default Cost to 67

    Pit Dragon
    Default Cost to 72

    Magma Bunny
    Default Cost to 67

    Pincushion
    Default Cost to 69


    Deep Elf Priestess
    Default Cost to 79

    Bok Gatekeeper
    Default Cost to 73

    Lavaspout
    Default Cost to 70

    Balefire Knight
    Default Cost to 75

    Bok Enforcer
    default Cost to 78

    Maxxarek
    Default Cost to 100

    Nightmare
    Default Cost to 74

    Abyssal Fiend
    Default Cost to 66

    Deep Elf Fanatic
    Default Cost to 87

    Rust Demon
    Default Cost to 71

    Bloodletter
    Default Cost to 70

    Nefari Soul Torch
    Default Cost to 79

    Incinerator
    Default Cost to 70

    Scorched Dwarf
    Default Cost to 39

    Nefari Guardian
    Default Cost to 66

    Deep Elf Monk
    Default Cost to 82

    Grimlic
    Default Cost to 98

    Shadow Master
    Default Cost to 64

    Nefari Soul Torch
    Default Cost to 79

    Firestarter
    Default Cost to 76

    Flameweb Spider
    Default Cost to 68

    Demon Lich
    Default Cost to 79

    Demon Lich
    Default Cost to 79

    Greater Pitspawn
    Default Cost to 107

    Hook Fiend
    Default Cost to 74

    Servile Brute
    Default Cost to 59

    Angel of Pain
    Default Cost to 84

    Fire Giant
    Default Cost to 74

    Ember Wasp
    Default Cost to 71

    Puppet Master
    Default Cost to 84

    Trap Spider
    Default Cost to 81

    Bunny Lord
    Default Cost to 87

    Weaver
    Default Cost to 72

    Firemaw
    Default Cost to 94

    Murk Demon
    Default Cost to 63

    Deep Elf Masochist
    Default Cost to 73

    Imp Alchemist
    Default Cost to 64

    Vothsair Ireguard
    Default Cost to 94

    Nefari Griefsinger
    Default Cost to 71

    Corrupted Cultist
    Default Cost to 66

    Imp Jester
    Default Cost to 77

    Grimlic
    Default Cost to 98

    Deep Leviathan
    Default Cost to 78

    Phase Spider
    Default Cost to 66

    Aspect of Oblivion
    Default Cost to 91

    Lower Beast of Sheoul
    Default Cost to 72

    Bok Mistress
    Default Cost to 84

    Demonbarb Spider
    Default Cost to 79

    Vothsair Reaver
    Default Cost to 83

    Deep Elf Manslayer
    Default Cost to 88

    Nefari Caverunner
    Default Cost to 78

    Imp Trickster
    Default Cost to 80

    Imp Strangler
    Default Cost to 71

    Goblin Dirtbag
    Default Cost to 72

    Goblin Stickyfingers
    Default Cost to 72

    Korona, Bok Huntress
    Default Cost to 76

    Cinderpede
    Default Cost to 88

    Imp Deceiver
    Default Cost to 74

    Nightfall Spider
    Default Cost to 79

    Bok Raider
    Default Cost to 80

    Soulcrawler
    Default Cost to 72

    Hekatian Bloodguard
    Default Cost to 90

    Void Spider
    Default Cost to 73

    Minotaur Sentry
    Default Cost to 70

    Minotaur Culler
    Default Cost to 73

    Minotaur Flamecrusher
    Default Cost to 83

    Minotaur Battlemage
    Default Cost to 82

    Soulthirster
    Default Cost to 80

    Minotaur Fury
    Default Cost to 73

    Sheoul Disciple
    Default Cost to 75

    Deep Elf Infiltrator
    Default Cost to 74

    Grimlic
    Default Cost to 98

    Albino Katipo
    Default Cost to 64

    Ash Maiden
    Default Cost to 77

    Unhinged Bok
    Default Cost to 72

    Flowing Ember
    Default Cost to 69

    Hekatian Voidraker
    Default Cost to 76

    Pox Renovator
    Default Cost to 83

    Angel of Pain
    Default Cost to 84

    Korona, Bok Huntress
    Default Cost to 76

    Vothsair Vanguard
    Default Cost to 87

    Bloodbow Infantry
    Default Cost to 68

    Nefari Schemer
    Default Cost to 75

    Sheoul Monstrosity
    Default Cost to 76

    Minotaur Stoker
    Default Cost to 69

    Flameweb Spider
    Default Cost to 68

    Minotaur Portalwalker
    Default Cost to 75

    Badgerwulf
    Default Cost to 66

    Shadow Master
    Default Cost to 64

    Nefari Shockbow
    Default Cost to 78

    Nefari Beastcaller
    Default Cost to 72

    Heretic Overlord
    Default Cost to 74

    Fire Phoenix
    Default Cost to 87

    Bloodgoyle
    Default Cost to 76

    The Sanguine
    Default Cost to 76
     
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  3. Agirgis1

    Agirgis1 Forum Royalty

    Spell : Drain Vit.

    This spell looks pretty interesting , could possibly be meta

    Goblin Collector with Prov Offensive seems decent tbh..... summon relic....blow it up...... Very interesting.

    Ruby Crawler is alright , can be tanky cuz mirrored and fire acy.
    But only 40 hp

    Demonic Sandclaw , I don't know if its for UD meta , but looks like a rune with possibility.

    Blood Abhorrent, Lol, what is this thing.... its like they just threw a bunch of ideas together and said " f**K it"

    Nefari Informant is cool , a detect meta rune
     
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  4. Agirgis1

    Agirgis1 Forum Royalty

    Ill do the break down of themes and whats strong after rune manager is up , because its a little difficult to give a clear answer atm
     
  5. Skeezick

    Skeezick Forum Royalty

    pfff excluding stitched from UD,when did you betray us
     
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  6. badgerale

    badgerale Warchief of Wrath

    I should wait to see what it looks like nora-wise, but it sounds like mischief became AoE 5.

    Which makes me sad and somewhat angry, apart from being an over-nerf, there is enough micromanaging with imps as it is, now you need to check an AoE.

    [rant]A simple nora cost increase would have been better, but some loud mouthed people can't seem to get their heads around having a strong simple ability define a theme, and there is the stupid idea circulating that AP gen is 'inherently' broken, and global is bad, and blah blah i lost to it [/rant]
     
  7. Yourmom

    Yourmom The King of Potatoes

    on the bright side imp vixen got a range buff =D
     
  8. Agirgis1

    Agirgis1 Forum Royalty

    Posted opinions on new runes
     
  9. badgerale

    badgerale Warchief of Wrath

    Goblin decks got a boost with goblin thievery becoming cheaper and going to 2AP
     
  10. jvne

    jvne Well-Known Member

    What goblin decks?
     
  11. badgerale

    badgerale Warchief of Wrath

    When I say got a boost, I mean became half-runnable.
     
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  12. Gnomes

    Gnomes Forum Royalty

    The demonic scorpion is really strong 71 nora in spiders deck for what it has is GOOD! and im still iffy about the ruby crawler but it does add to the spider /fire module with cinderpede, flameweb,lavaflowdevouerer...ect. loosing surge 2 is very sad for both brood mother and k'lzick, they do not hit for 40+ dmg easy anymore but still a desent 25... and the cost decrease is ok then i guess.... i really just like it because it brings more attention to the otherspiders then make it all around them. i think my spider deck cut even with the addition of the amazing scorpion and the new spell(which i personally think is fantastic)
     
  13. Authyrtyr

    Authyrtyr The King of Potatoes

    I think crawler is runnable in spiders just as a semi tanky dude against non-physical attackers. Scorpio is super strong in spiders. For 71 nora you get alot of value.
     
  14. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

    if gloomgiver got reflection on basr what's its ug2?
     
  15. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    Goblin Collector has been MVP in a couple of games now.

    Needs a soultap garnet for the instant soultap then reclaim, and a cloak of long knives. He ends up speed 8 with 17 damage at 4-5 range and multiattack.

    MUCH fun.

    LOL . Make that 22 dam , 10 speed. with abilities taken from other champs.
     
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  16. futant

    futant Well-Known Member

    RIP imps
    RIP spiders
    RIP UD

    Thunder Hoof +2 nora ?
    K'lzik -1 nora and shoeboxed
    Succubus: Shaken like a snow globe for some one can run it. Pointless to me.
    Deep Elf Summoner: +10 nora and shoeboxed
    Nefari Siphon: +4 nora?
    Screaming Imp: -2 Nora, new kit ability, dead imp theme
    Red Cap Twins: wtf, idc
    Magma Elemental: +2 nora ?
    Nefari Fireslinger: Lost cheap kit option
    Shadow Hunter: Lost mischief.
    Undertortoise: Nostalgic, and meta boring.
    Siege Monger: It's good now, but who really cared?
    Broodmother: Cost increase for some damage, but lost all potential without surge 2.
    Flameskitter: +2 nora.
    Grundelwulf Alpha: -5 nora, -2 damage. umm...
    Imp Vixen: Lost mischief, gained a theme that it can be a crutch for.
    Needleclaw Imp: Lost mischief, but compensated by costing +2 nora.
    Goblin Arsonist: Technically costs +4 nora for one new thing on its kit
    Goblin Gloombringer: New kit, math, probably +4 nora for it. Btw don't care
    Minotaur Gladiator: Unsure on this one. Possible buff? gasp*
    Altered Lemure: Lost mischief, +2 nora. Congratulations it's now even more meta boring.
    Minotaur Insurgent: +4 nora

    Lava Trap: don't care
    Cursed Epitaph: don't care

    The rest--- +2 or more nora added to everything
     
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  17. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    oh my god that grundelwulf alpha buff.

    wtf is the blood abhorrent's stats/range and why is he 85 nora?!?! o_O

    very helpful thread.
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2015
  18. Gnomes

    Gnomes Forum Royalty

    the im liking the ruby crawler more, its fire aura (like acid aura from rust demon) helps make spiderlings from spiderqueen.
     
  19. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

  20. Gnomes

    Gnomes Forum Royalty

    nope, not yet. im going to let the hype train run its course first. ill try them once they are not played by everyone. how do you like em? the passive goblin thevory looks like it can make some interesting things happen
     

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