Garu Den Mother

Juya has same damage output and cost as grimlic, but 20 more hp with boost.
Ferren have as much base hp as vashal, arctic essentially gives them same speed as vashal, so they are getting 10 hp on zerg theme for free.

Your favoritism of ST was so big that it has consistently been #3 faction right after norabonus ones.

 

Logan, you're pushing mmrv levels of insanity atm.

 

Explain me where am I wrong.

 

Just qft.

 

Sokolov, you know we all <3 you, but ST really got overbuffed during your reign.

Some things that are just over-the-top:

1) Kas Guide is the only summoner to summon REAL champions every 3 rounds.
2) Snow Blind has no timer, as opposed to other spells of a similar nature that do not target a specific champion, i.e. Backfire, Backfire Boon, and Ancient's Protection.
3) Frostfall Icewisp is still ridiculous at 59 nora. To think that it was even stronger on initial release is mind-boggling.
4) The fact that Arctic on almost all ST champs gives it a better bonus than the IS font bonus in that ST champs will not only get the 1 ap on the crucial first turn, but can keep getting it throughout the game when on ice, snow, etc.

 

Speaking of Pets.

Recent match. First deploy Queen Anura.
Second deploy Garu pet mother.

So fun

 

I haven't noticed any particular bias from Sokolov towards ST, it's a stupid false rumor that comes from the fact that people always find other's stuff better than theirs.

Most of ST's strenght comes from elements that were there long before Sokolov's reign (like Artic and Snow Blind in your example).
Concerning Icewisp, every other faction also got their share of overefficient passive champions in the past (see Mika, Goblin Spellkaiser, Voil Jester, etc.).
It mostly comes from the fact that it's very hard to evaluate how important the impact of a champion that can't attack every turn will be.

 

Pets should get something like - when champ with pet eg. Den Mother/huntmaster etc is destroyed pet is also destroyed

 

Pets, riders, and those type of abilities should definitely get a look.

I like the idea of double edged sword.

Another issue that pets bring up is that, while they may not be able to contest fonts directly, it's fairly easy for them to run up and plop a relic down to contest anyway.
Having summons unable to drop relics or give spell presence would definitely help bring their power down.

 

Sok, I missed your numbercrunching <3

 

I think a possible solution for pets might be something along the lines of giving the summoned champs a massive stat reduction (so they keep like 50% or 65% base stats) and to give the "pet master" unit something like boost: pet (could work for non summoned champs as well, all pets are shoeboxed on their own afaik, why not pull them out of there on the go), so if you use the pet to harass fonts or reinforce a second front they'll have stats similar to most summoned champs, but they'll still be above avarage summon (they are a one time summon after all) when fighting next to their master. That way killing the master will make the pet much weaker as well (assuming it's in boost range to begin with).

And as for ST font bonus being better than IS font bonus: no. +1 ap at the end of the turn is just not as good as +1 ap at the beginning of the turn for so many reasons: punish, drudgery, 7 speeders on SP map and generally not getting that 1 ap when you capture\recapture a font are a few. You might say that arctic is better than IS font bonus, and I'll agree, but that's another matter.

 

I meant confirm it as in it is still there on Pygmy Hippo. I played vs his original version and then showed him that they missed hippo when removing bound abilities.

 

Yes, Hippo still has it. However, the Huntmaster lost "lack of pygmy hippos"

 

Ahh ok, i missed that they didnt remove it on the Hippo

 

There were a number of bad decisions relating to ST's balance, but I blame calisk more than Sok for that (though ultimately he does decide what to push live, regardless of player suggestions).

K'ento and Yetis stick out to me as particularly offensive when they were released (Crystal Yeti lol). I have also heard funny things about the initial draft of Grumble Rock..

But really I don't think it was a lot worse than mistakes made in other factions. I could not believe my eyes when Enforcer was released, it solved all my KF Wizards problems. 78 nora and some KF players were complaining.. but we are also talking about the expansion that released Hekatian Bloodguard and Mysian Lamia.

K'ento being obscene for so long is the biggest miss I can remember. It was really just soft spot for ST + no reasonable ST voice in the Corpse Pile + general issues with balancing runes rather than a systematic plot

 

Oh yeah, Hydra was a bad idea. Sorry.

 

The HP on kas champions is beyond ridiculous, one would expect a champion with so many chances of going unharmed soloing one or two champions to be squishy once his protection is down, but kas adherent has 52 base hp for 75 nora and blessed, that alone makes him a fine tank without NKD.