Lack of Upgrades Suggestions

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Sokolov, Mar 31, 2016.

  1. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    If there is a champ that has an upgrade path with just 1 or 2 choices and you have an idea for what it can have, please post it here for consideration.

    Feel free to include champs that have "technical" choices but similar upgrades that could use more variety.

    For example:

    Skeezick Machinist: Add Mason 3 to upgrade 2
     
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  2. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Anthropomancer u1 or u2 -- Violence charged.
     
  3. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Skeezick Machinist
    Current:
    U1: Fire Bomb 3, Flash Bomb
    U2: Skeezick Ally

    Idea:
    U1: Fire Bomb 3, Flash Bomb, +Lightning Skeweer
    U2: +Mason 3, +Superior Tinkering, +Craft or +Grant Aura: Electricity

    Why: Now that there are IS/SL constructs it should be able to help more on splits so Mason 3, Superior Tinkering or craft would help both in splits and equip bgs. The Lightning Skewer helps with Paralized synergy for IS and adds an alternative dmg option.

    **Edited: Removed Skeezick Ally, boosting dmg would only help if U1: is fire bomb, and would still be the lesser option, so i removed it and made room for the other suggestions.
     
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  4. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Draksar Augmenter
    Current:
    U1: Channel: Atk, Channel: Defense
    U2: Channel: Spd

    Idea:
    U1: Channel: Atk, Channel: Defense, +Channel: Speed
    U2: +Render, +Mimic Defense, +Bold

    Why: Channels occupying only one path to honor its name and other weird fun stat buffs to combo with
     
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  5. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Draksar Marine
    Current:
    U1: Dive 1, Dive 2, Dive 3
    U2: Pin Down

    Idea:
    U1: +Swap, Dive 2, +Charge 2
    U2: Pin Down, +Sweep, +Impaling Strike or +Sapping Strike

    Why: U1 is for movement and U2 for attacks with CC, gave it options to pick if you want the target to be still, to knock it or plain damage.
    Sapping Strike is an additional help for AP control bgs, i picked Impaling Strike because it counters stealth and is a harpoony ability.

    **Edited: I removed "Dive 1" after cheacking its price, even if you build it to make it as cheap as possible Dive 1 would be too useless on him. Now it has 3 movility options, one that rellys to target an ally, the other to target an enemy and the other terrain.
    Also drakky with swap, was about time :p
     
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  6. Heart

    Heart I need me some PIE!

    Nefari Fireslinger
    Current:
    U1: Lavastrike, Flamestrike, Burn
    U2: Escalation

    Idea:
    U1: Lavastrike, Flamestrike, Burn
    U2: Escalation, +Strike, +Empowered Range
     
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  7. Thbigchief

    Thbigchief I need me some PIE!

    - Both the new orb arroyo's...need some purpose
     
  8. Gorebucket

    Gorebucket Forum Royalty

    Treecaller: Cleanse (5), Magical Attack (4), Charm (6)

    Simply allows the choice of activated ability with little shift in price or power.
     
  9. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Jangar Arcanis
    Current:
    U1: Frost Cone 1, Frost Cone 2, Frost Cone 3
    U2: Flame Strike

    Idea:
    U1: Frost Cone 1, Frost Cone 3, +Adept Arcanist
    U2: Flame Strike, +Flame Syphon, +Solar Flare
     
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  10. skarpox

    skarpox The King of Potatoes

    Hyaenid Pack Leader
    Offensive U1: Battle Leader, Declare Target, Declare Vengeance
    Def / Util U2: Detection 3, Cackle, Evasive 2
     
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  11. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Skeezick Whorl
    Current:
    U1: Skeezick Alliance, Blast, Slam
    U2: Opportunistic

    Idea:
    U1: Skeezick Alliance, Blast, Slam
    U2: Opportunistic, +Logistic Speed, +Terminus or Provision: Speed

    Why: Logistic spd as a better option to be played in theme. Terminus is another ap gen approach, for AP denial synergy.
     
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  12. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Valdaci Needlewing
    Current:
    U1: Blast, Barrage
    U2: Swoop, Empower Speed

    Idea:
    U1: Blast, Barrage, +Spike Nova 3
    U2: Swoop, Empower Speed, +Running Start or +Swap

    Why:
    Spike Nova 3 gives another AoE option that grants burred condition
    Running Start just to have another birdy option or Swap to compensate movility
     
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  13. Wraith

    Wraith Administrator Octopi

    Arroyo Storm Orb
    U
    2: Jolt 1, Static Greeting, Spark Curse

    Arroyo Flamewisp
    U
    2: Purging Flames, Fascinate, Blind

    My 5 cents...
     
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  14. Thbigchief

    Thbigchief I need me some PIE!

    - Yeah efficiency aside which was not my main issue...your suggestion addresses my real point that they didnt really convey a direction even tho they were released with some type of kinship appearance and design. These suggestions address some of that.
     
  15. Alakhami

    Alakhami I need me some PIE!

    @Sokolov Naria are more treefolk/delim than vampyres. What do you think of making them work better for UD or UD/FW vamps?
     
  16. super71

    super71 I need me some PIE!

    This thread is a very good idea, keep up the good work.
     
  17. badgerale

    badgerale Warchief of Wrath

    As an aside, could Mason be renamed 'Repair'? Seems to fit better for constructs, shrines and relics, and suits champs like the machinist better.

    Perhaps there could be blood options on the upgrade paths.
     
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  18. super71

    super71 I need me some PIE!

    Stalwart Defender

    Upgrade line 2- Hold the line, block 1, command: block
     
  19. Cydna

    Cydna Forum Royalty

    Dwarven King

    U2 - DF 2, Regal Prescence/Dwarven Noble/Provision, Loyalty

    Assuming people want to keep Divine Favor as a choice, I left it there at rank 2.
    I don't really care if Loyalty gets added or not, but if it did he'd have to lose some stats base. Reasoning is that he's a king, he's loyal to IS.
    Regal Prescence goes perfectly with Warcry, but probably gives too much damage.
    Dwarven Noble helps make him tanky even though he'll be expensive, he'll be worth running.
    Provision: Defense/Offense would synergize well with Dwarf theme since he'll be equipped with Brews.

    So 1 upgrade choice if people don't want DK changed, 1 upgrade dedicated to Dwarves, 1 upgrade dedicated to good stuff...
    or
    1 upgrade choice if people don't want DK changed, 2 upgrade choices for dwarfs...
    or
    3 upgrade choices for Dwarfs (Regal Prescence, Dwarven Noble, Provision: Off/Def)
     
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  20. Pedeguerra

    Pedeguerra I need me some PIE!

    Warning, this is NOT a zealot suggestion and totally in line with balance.
     

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