trying to get ideas

Discussion in 'K'Thir Forest' started by armyguyclaude, Apr 2, 2016.

  1. armyguyclaude

    armyguyclaude Member

    Hi all. I'm new to KF. Never touched it.
    Trying to create a split kf bg focused somewhat around control/boost (for generic not themed)
    Hoping you all can look at the list I've compiled rate 1-5
    1 never going to use
    2 could be used if themed
    3 situational
    4 could go into just about any bg
    5 auto include

    I've only compiled runes I thought I would/could use for my bg idea. If you've got other ideas I haven't thought about please let me know <3
    Thanks for your time

    This has been editted from previous questions
    Compilation
    Twisted Fireoak 3
    Gnarlwood Launcher 3
    Enforcer of the Circle 4
    Falconer 4
    Tortun Hawker 4
    Cora, Sun Blossom 4
    Solitary Garu 3
    reclaim 5
    thorn collection 5
    bow mage 2
    dugon, garu stalwart 4
    warcaller fiorn 5
    tortalleon gunbattery 5
    Fanatical Devotee 3
    elven strategist 2
    elven prodigy 5
    rage of the circle 3.5
    wood marshal druid 3
    overgrowth 2
    aspect of life 3
    vashal enchanter 3
    Catharsis Bloom 3
    Tortun Battle Mystic 3
    Tortalleon Pygmy 4
    Reticulated Splinehawk 4
    outcast de'lim 2
    occuli slag 3
    sporegill 3
    nectar fairy 3
    time slip 4
    naria queen 5
    naria mindtap 3
    gnarlwood lifegiver 5
    k'thir doombringer 3
    heart of the forest 2
    gnarlwood patriarch 2
    fae dreamer 2
    fae advocate 3
    elven fury 2
    elven druid 3
    corgi ranger 3
    elven artisan 4
    dusk druid 3
    avenging angel 3.5
    artillery marker 5
    apprentice mage 2
    ancestral anger 3
    bullseye 3
    carnivorous vines 3
    escape magic 4
    fan faire 2
    fuel 3
    grimlics bane 4
    herbal antidote 2
    lethologica 2
    lifeshield 3
    living vines 3
    mend 3
    mirror trap 2
    petrichor 3
    sabotage 4
    treefolk's blessing 2
    counterbalance 3
    dreamblossom 3
    grimlic's eye 3
    poison quill trap 3
    pride of k'thir 4
    prismatic crystals 4
    slipstream fulcrum 4
    vinetouch pedestal 2
    aurora lance 2
    burning oak seed 3
    covenant 4
    forest's embrace 3
    horn of order 5
    oaken mace 3
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2016
  2. ChiaoLung

    ChiaoLung I need me some PIE!

    KF's strength is largely in its excellent array of spells and equips and its synergy. There are a lot of runes that are meta worthy, but most of them are dependent on what you are running them with. You'd probably get the best advice for splits in the split forum, but if you're looking for advice here it would be helpful if we knew what you were looking to split it with (both faction and general idea.) As far as things I always include when running KF they are Carnivorous Vines, Reclaim, Thorn Collection, and Cleansing Emerald (these are just my preferences and aren't true for all KF players.) Almost everything else will change with what I'm running. I like Falconer for a cheap source of detection as well as being useful for being both melee and pseudo range and he also makes it into a lot of the bg's I build. Similarly, Elven Artisan is a good cheap source of shatter. Beyond that there are a lot of neat tricks with KF that can be found here, and a number of FF KF bg's (not current) that can be found here.
     
  3. armyguyclaude

    armyguyclaude Member

    Thanks. Thinking about a KF/FW split, but just thinking atm. Not sure if I'll be using KF at all even. Just want to know what it has before I decide and spend my poxbox currency and shards on poxnora. Thanks a bunch.
     
  4. ChiaoLung

    ChiaoLung I need me some PIE!

    The only reasons I could think to split with FW would be spirits and to try out the naria with other vamps. I'm not the most versed in FW though.
     
  5. armyguyclaude

    armyguyclaude Member

    I pretty much main FW atm. Used to be well versed in UD tho (memory is slipping, old age...), but yea looking into KF for Naria. But I figured while I was here, I might look at everything KF has to offer incase I come up with any other possible ideas. Seeming's how I prolly won't ever look at KF again.

    How are Devotee BG's?

    And is Twisted Fireoak still viable/used?
     
  6. armyguyclaude

    armyguyclaude Member

    Also does KF offer anything with Life Siphon?
     
  7. ChiaoLung

    ChiaoLung I need me some PIE!

    Devotee BG's are very strong. Naria can work in them very easily. Twisted Fireoak has never been used really. When it first came out it was tried and tried and tried, but as far as I know, it was never made to work very well. And sadly, no Life Siphon in KF.
     
  8. armyguyclaude

    armyguyclaude Member

    Thank you for your help

    Besides Falconer, what are other good forms of detect KF might have?
    Besides Artisan any other forms of decent shatter?
     
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  9. EnigmaXIII

    EnigmaXIII I need me some PIE!

    Hey :D

    So like you, I'm pretty adventurous. Most people will tell you splitting KF is laughable. I have been trying to do it for a while. The only thing that has seen any decent success is and KF/UD split with elves, since deep elves count as elves.

    In regards to KF/FW.
    - Grimlics Mirror + Lich King
    - Wizards BG (KF and FW have lots of wizards. Chained fae recently got an awesome buff)
    - Magic AMP
    - Timeslip + Shadow shank/Other champ

    Thats all i remember right now :(
    I hope I was somewhat helpful.
     
  10. armyguyclaude

    armyguyclaude Member

    Updated my original post to feature a compilation of runes I've considered using
     
  11. EnigmaXIII

    EnigmaXIII I need me some PIE!

    Fiorn is a hero, cannot be included in split BGs (As of now)
    Sabotage<Dreambox
     
  12. armyguyclaude

    armyguyclaude Member

    Good to know thanks
     
  13. OriginalG1

    OriginalG1 I need me some PIE!

    Spirit of the mountain+horn of order+ escape magic+ general healing is funny. Depending on where the projection lands, you can totally stop you opponent from capping fonts in early game. If you are splitting with kf SotM should be the default hero.
     
  14. armyguyclaude

    armyguyclaude Member

    Why not Garu Medium instead? it's cheaper
     
  15. OriginalG1

    OriginalG1 I need me some PIE!

    The fact that SotM is a ghost can be really hard for your opponent to deal with. Hard to kill, dose not lock up with champs, can wander around. Try him a few times & put horn of order in there (manifestion dishes out great damage, horn help to make sure the manidestion attacks twice) with escape magic. Your opponent will usually have to spend two or three turns focused on desperately try to kill him, then when escape magic pop's off they cry. When I split with kf I usually use tortun portal mage as well; good healing, more free tank meat.
     
  16. Karmavore

    Karmavore MEDIUMALLTIME

    Thanks for the shout out, like every expansion ibfall behind on it. I'll work to update it. Or some variation of the thread itself.
     
  17. Karmavore

    Karmavore MEDIUMALLTIME

    As for medium it's good if you can protect it and get the most out of its ability Essence Capture.

    But the unit itself, is super vulnerable.
     

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