Pro-life Texas lawmaker introduces bill imposing death penalty for abortion

Will you deny that the vast majority of medical experts recommend the use of mask as a prophylactic measure against airbone diseases? Masks have been used by medical personnel for a long time in a wide array of situations, so when you cherrypick one source that is against that measure, can you say you are siding with "science"?
Also there is the hard evidence of the fact that reducing these liberties had the effects that were expected.

 

Corona virus doesn't spread if you are protesting is the left wing equivalent that was pushed in MSM.

Most of what is going on can't be framed as left vs right. It's becoming do you follow the law / corporate mandate or not. I just bought a house in the woods with my crypto earnings, so that's me lul.

 

As soon as I personally read headlines that said protesting was OK and didn't spread coronavirus (mind you, this is last march / early April), I tuned out. Saved the pics on my phone, couldn't find them from a Google search (shocker). To me, the news is just propaganda at this point, and my life is better not listening to anything that comes from a broadcast. So to me, my official political stance is that all media is a deepfake ai or should be treated as such, and reality is what is happening in my personal sphere of influence only.

Mind you I was 70% of this opinion pre pandemic, but that single event is what gradually shifted me to 100%.

 

It depends if they nerf skeletons or not.

 

To be fair, I did search my images from March to try and find the pic

 

Pro-Life lawmakers tend to only be Pro-Birth, not Pro-Life.

 

For bacteria, surgical masks are effective containment (especially with goggles). For viruses, which are much smaller, they aren't good enough. It's like trying to stop your neighbor from squiritng you with a hose by putting up a chainlink fence. That said, some masks are effective against viruses as well. A study for the Swine Flu showed N95 masks partially effective in a significant manner, but at the cost of increased risk of hypoxia over long-term use due to constrained breathing. Other respirators are likely effective as well, but these aren't being mandated, it's mostly just the inneffective surgical masks.

Many mandates even say that wearing a scarf to cover your nose/mouth would be enough to satisfy requirements, or face-sheilds, despite those having even more "gaps" to allow viral spread in the air (at least the face-guard can stop more direct sneezes, but an arm-pit can do the same). None of them mandate eye protection, or ear (though I don't think the ear is as much of an issue with these specific viruses).

I don't particularly care what "experts" say or claim by themselves, I care about what their science produces and whether their methodology for determining it is flawed or not. Particularly given the politically charged issues around masks, where many have experienced a loss of job or threat of such for going against the narrative even when they have scientific backing.

I've seen absolutely no such "hard evidence." Indeed, overall, it seems that places that lifted restrictions or did not have them often did similar or better to those that maintained them. The most impactful reduction in case numbers was when the CDC and WHO finally ordered PCR tests to use fewer cycles(amplifications) to reduce the number of false positives. Which means also that it's possible to manipulate case-load, throwing any concrete conlcusion on such data into question.

If you have some other "hard evidence", please provide such.

 

Wouldn't surprise me.

Then again, I don't particularly care for what the "right" or "left" say about what I should do medically, I care about what my doctor and scientific studies show work. Provided, of course, they aren't being influenced/falsified for politics like the Lancet report that suggested HCQ was causing more death, later retracted but still exploited to harass Trump for suggesting it over the much more expensive alternatives mentioned.

Make no mistake, there are many on the "Right" which still advocate for mask usage even in the general population.

Though in reality Japan and others most likely benefited from tighter border controls and/or better hand-washing (or in China's case, not giving actual numbers publicly), something which the Left argued vehemently against.

A slight tangent:
Also, why doesn't anyone encourage hand-washing anymore? Or limiting touching your eyes/nose/mouth with unwashed hands? I almost never see it mentioned as a means of reducing spread and it's actually relatively useful. Not something you can easily mandate and seperate people on with an obvious marker I guess, but should be encouraged anyway.

Also going outside (the virus lasts only 30 seconds in direct sunlight, give or take), having Vitamin C and other good nutrients... though in the latter case this has never really been mentioned for some reason.

 

your analogy is wrong, viruses travel far when they are riding saliva droplets, so masks are like trying not to get wet with a chainlink fence, but the people trying to wet you is throwing water ballons.

 

I guess people don't encourage hand washing anymore because they assumed 12 months of reminding adults about it was enough. But still, disinfecting hands is mandatory in a lot of places and the means to do so are available on a lot of places where is not. At least in civilized countries.
And the going outside part is actually encouraged isn't it? not because UV killing the virus, which would be good for groceries and such, but because air circulation makes gatherings safer. In most countries, outdoors gatherings have allowances far greater than indoor gatherings and a lot of other measures in this style.

 

Is there really much to say about the new rules?

It sad they value a life of a non existent zygote over a fully developed human

 

the people supporting abortion verifies their minds are gone and they live in clown world. May you all live a 1000 years.

 

I'm not talking about "everyone on the Left" just as you weren't talking about "everyone on the Right." Rather, was referring to prominent heads and spokespersons of "the Left", Pelosi, CNN anchors, etc. trying to call the action of travel bans racist etc. Encouraging parties in China Town to combat this "racist" approach. There were no major players on the "left" side reproaching this that I saw. Individuals that align themselves? You for example? Sure, I can beleive that.

As for right now, the souther border is being intentionally let open, without any testing/quarantine proceedures for most illegal aliens. And on top of that they are being bussed or flown around throughout the nation. To say nothing of the conditions and over-crowding of processing centers and temporary holding facilities which makes them a bed for not just COVID to spread, but other diseases as well.

Yet Biden still refuses to finish building a wall which would help mitigate this despite still having to pay money to contractors to guard the materials this whole time (it would have been faster and cheaper to finish the wall), had suspended the "remain in Mexico" plan which was recently reinstated and hailed as "good" etc.

I'm sure there are many people that consider themselves "leftwing" that are upset about that. I know a lot of people of that political persuasion that supported Obama for example because he presented a tough-on-illegals stance during his first term and half the second. Yet those people aren't the ones in power or influence.


As for Trump's "delay... At the time, most of the pressure in DC was against a travel ban... so the fact Trump went through with it anyway is still a good thing overall, though I agree it probably should have been done sooner. Perhaps if Pelosi wasn't so busy trying to impeach the President and waiting to hand it over to the Senate until after the first cases started showing up, there would have been fewer obstacles to such action (though Trump should have ignored such obstacles sooner). What amazes me I guess is the brazen way in which media, and followers of it, somehow try to blame Trump for everything even while generall covering for, or ignoring, the current problems on the same issue.

It's not a "left/right" issue; that's true it's much more of an "establishment/anti-establishment" issue. Or "corrupt/anti-corruption" issue in my view (and there's corruption right in both major parties and most minor parties as well, but by no means are all of either party so corrupt). It's why I pointed out how muddled it is even when people on "the right" and "the left" have differing viewpoints on what is good for a given issue. But if you don't want me to say: "the right" or "the left" at all than that's not going to work well to fascilitate conversation.