ST list of changes

just a few of the main ones
angel (all) give stab back
aspect -15 nora
chronomancer -25 nora
phoenix -8 nora
ancestor -4 nora
freeze bug keeper -8 nora or nora miner 1
icewisp -7 nora or give back amp frost
GT (all) adjust prices, +4 nora for st
ice caster- amp frost -2 nora or -8
icesnap +4 nora
elder -6 nora
jfq -10 nora
frostbow-drop farshot, add mobility, -4 nora
owlraider +5 nora
wolfrider +6 hp
keeper-deploy 2, death 1, 82 nora
lonx adept to base grant frost aura +4 nora
lonx hurler +1 speed
polar ant -20 nora
doomball domain to base, -13 nora, maybe some hp
snarefairy -9 nora
snowman needs absorb and domain or too squishy
magebane surge strig -4 nora
tundra yeti tough 2
yeti ambusher attack net and ensnaring attack, -6 nora
yeti avalancher +2 dmg escalation for first upgrade, manic for second, -3 nora
yeti beserker +1 spd
yeti druid drop balance add 1 spd 1 dmg -4 nora
yeti scout -3 nora
yeti shaman magestic 1
yeti sorc snowblast to replace damage shield
yeti tracker -4 nora


i'd also like to say that if you do anything to keeper without buffing all the yetis, yetis will be shoeboxed too along with lonx and frost which leaves us with nothing.

 

Stopped reading after this

 

oh and mythical, i think he's good at 88 nora when you consider most played runes are 60-70

 

I think your bias may be showing just a little bit here.

 

maybe i wrote it based on what would have to be done for me to play it, or still play it

 

Problem is, everybody does this around here, so you are not alone.

 

55 nora for chronomancer? umm.....

 

yeah this is quite ridiculous

also please move/make these threads in their respective forums

 

I have deep hope that after ability recost we will get somewhere playable. Right now tho, frost lost too much amp on key champs to be top tier.

 

Put it back on icecaster imo.... Or the Titan. It could fit as a third choice in path 2

EDIT: I actually did have some success with running 1x adept and 1x shaaman... the shaaman can actually be pretty useful, even at her cost. At least worth a shot. With those two champs I also have 2 Yeti Spirits for amp, then of course the shard.

Arcadon also never fails. Theme still needs help tho imo

 

i meant to make it 60 nora, on my checklist it shows 88 nora

 

idk whether to laugh or cry

 

it used to be 62 nora with the -4 spd skill

 

You need to get your balance checked, it's tilting

 

Why -8 to Phoenix when it went up 10 (Immortality + Aura build at least)? 57 is just a weird number compared to 55!

 

Well, for my fellow Tundra people, if you are mad about some units loosing Frost Amp (deservingly on some cases, i.e. Ice Caster), I'd highly recommend checking out Arcadon.
That 58 nora price tag.

 

Always been a solid champ imo

 

So, I think I just read someone saying ST is not playable? I must be tripping on acid.

 

let's not go there

 

Playable, but weaker then it been for a long long time. We have had our glorious insane OP themes, like yetis and we also been totally crap.
But we always have had frost amp to fall back on. Now that frost amp got nerfed real hard so is it considered weak.