A gift for you on day of New Ownership! Discussion

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Senshu, Feb 27, 2014.

  1. Silveraine

    Silveraine I need me some PIE!

    Wait everyone doesn't get this? :eek:
    I was under the impression that this would be given to all players who join pox!
     
  2. nitebane21

    nitebane21 I need me some PIE!

    I agree. These guys invented Poxnora. The game could have a lot of changes when it is re-released, so maybe its OP, maybe its not OP. Why not wait and see?
     
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  3. Molosse

    Molosse I need me some PIE!

    I am curious by what "Starting Ability" means on Renovate, does that mean for example a Renovator will get +30% Dmg vs another Renovator? (Attack: Gun, Flight, Renovate).
     
  4. nitebane21

    nitebane21 I need me some PIE!

    Yeah she is! You can see some more of her sprite work in an old interview here.
     
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  5. jenovah2

    jenovah2 The King of Potatoes

    ^"What he said"
     
  6. Fikule

    Fikule I need me some PIE!

    Or we could discuss the rune in a discussion thread and ask for context and clarification?

    Or was this thread made so you could fawn over DoG?

    Or is this the official "waiting" thread, where we all just wait to see if the rune does anything magical by itself without any input?

    I mean, I bet they gave us a full stat and ability preview of a rune with no context just so you could post that comment.

    I imagine the lack of context you assume is there is so we can say "wow, that's a rune. Sure does something we can't comprehend. This thread for discussing it sure is pointless"

    I hope this post gets the point across that the discussion of this rune is an implied part of the discussion thread. If you want all comments to be positive or assume there's no context then you may as well not bother discussing it at all.

    People who are unhappy with this rune or its assumed availability aren't being mean. They are just being honest and posting within the context provided by DoG. They are free to reply with assurances to these issues and ease our concerns.
     
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  7. FrostWing

    FrostWing New Member

    I like the art and sprite a lot. Would be fun for them to have an ability specific for the faction they are played in, just like the doom bringers.

    Otherwise great job! looking forward to owning one.
     
  8. BansheeX

    BansheeX I need me some PIE!

    I like the arts comic relief and the sprite is cute, but I dislike (like the Pox Harbingers) runes that are designed to be entirely identical in all 8 factions.
    It will look out of place in anything but a full Strigg BG and in KF and IS (or/IS) you are looking at 9 flying ap on the turn after deployment.
    Giving the champion a speed upgrade is pretty silly since noone at all will choose to tkae anything over that, and the base speed of 7 is imo allready to much when you take KF/IS and Tailwind into account.
    In my opinion it is a badly designed rune.
     
  9. RedDain

    RedDain I need me some PIE!

    I do not think Owls have long trailing eyebrows. Nerf eyebrows before release.
     
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  10. nitebane21

    nitebane21 I need me some PIE!

    Wow, you're an angry little fella aren't you!
     
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  11. Fikule

    Fikule I need me some PIE!

    Angry? No.

    Just trying to get the point across. Although I suppose I did leave myself open to ad hominem rather than a response to my actual point. And I'm not arguing with you, just the common comment of not giving feedback as if that's a good thing.


    See? This seems to be worth discussing. I don't see why we should "wait and see" in a discussion thread. The entire point is constructive feedback and all these points are valid concerns to be addressed.

    - It IS out of theme.
    - It IS too mobile.

    If it truly is meant to be a commemorative rune, why make it anything more than collectable? Why does it need to be powerful? For a start, a homogeneous rune across all factions that is powerful enough to warrant across the board use is terrible. Would you want the rune released like that because it might turn out ok if we just "wait and see"?

    At the very least, confirm the context or assume the the current context. Don't assume an unknown context and justify things based on that.
     
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  12. Baskitkase

    Baskitkase Forum Royalty

    Looks like old school upgrades, in other words: pewp (obv besides speed which shouldn't be there).

    You can do better than this. Make it collectable/unplayable or do it better.
     
  13. Silveraine

    Silveraine I need me some PIE!

    What did you peeps think of my suggestion? Not worth? :(
     
  14. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    I like your suggestion, but without aerial supremacy (9 damage is fine, renovator will add a lot of damage and beasts are boostable), unique (not nice to restrict a ranged beast), Ally, and detection on upgrades could go to precision (it's as flavorful and detection is everywhere in beasts).
    This will be a really used rune.
     
  15. sigune

    sigune The King of Potatoes

    Hi how do i transfer then? Cant find that anywhere.
    Love Poxnora its the best game in the world. I would have use for the Owl.
    A good thing it counters mimic, SL. I've been looking for that!
     
  16. Shuyash

    Shuyash The King of Potatoes

    I don't dislike your idea, but I think that adding extra abilities to a champion that heralds increased rune simplicity kinda misses the point...

    As for the speed issue - I say make them heroes, take 1 speed off from IS/KF/maybe ST and you tend to 2 problems in one ability - limited availability (as you can include only 1 in a BG, it's not perfect but better than having 4 vs. none) and degenerate split faction interactions, as they can only be played in FF.
     
  17. Gedden

    Gedden Administrator Octopi

    Many of you caught the reference - the main theme is "super champs" are in our cross-hairs :)

    Loud and Clear !!!-- speed will be dropped (6) as will the speed upgrade. Back in the day we used to put a disclaimer above every preview saying something along the lines of: "The stats are not final!" Its worth mentioning I was playing with these numbers when I sent them to hawk to post -- I was toying with 6/7 speed and +hp/+spd, somehow both got set. Again after hearing from you all I think both should get dropped. It did not get posted but we currently have this rune at 83 nora.

    We used the word 'starting' instead of 'base' because its still being played with. At the time i'm writing this, Renovate is triggering on all abilities that exist on the champion before they are deployed (and this feels really good). This means that passives from auras and abilities that add other abilities don't add damage -- to be clear Titan counts as 1 ability not 7.

    The intention is that this rune will be released for each faction as a collectible item that mark an event in the history of pox, much in the same line as the Harbingers and Doombringers.
     
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  18. Axeraiser

    Axeraiser I need me some PIE!

    Glad to see you are listening to the hoard Gedden :p Look's a cool flavourful champ.
     
  19. Axeraiser

    Axeraiser I need me some PIE!

    And to clarify Gedden, will be receiving 1 from each faction or 1 for whatever our main faction is ? Judged by our amount of faction points.
     
  20. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    You know, in the future, people will want to play with this rune because it's actually useful, as a lot of people want to play with doombringers and harbingers now and don't have access to them. Will this be addressed in some way?
     

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