A problem for Cyclops.

Discussion in 'Shattered Peaks' started by themacca, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    Would it at all be possible to change several of the cyclops units to be 1x1. as it currently is cyclops are super good statistically and even ability wise. But the incredibly large amount of cyclops being 2x2 simply makes it too difficult to get around the maps and it can very easily cost you games.

    So heres a list of cyclops you could justify making Size 1x1.

    Alpine Cyclops
    Cyclops Youth
    Cyclops Shaman
    Cyclops Stormcaller
    Cyclops Hurler
    Cyclops Wardrummer
    Cyclops Primal

    I'm not sure if changing a units size is something you can actually do but if it is then i really hope that you guys do something like this as currently cyclops just aren't runnable and it's for possibly the silliest reason out of every theme in the game.
  2. Ultima

    Ultima I need me some PIE!

    Nora costs would go up, causing some reabilties
  3. gamengamenut

    gamengamenut I need me some PIE!

    Does being 2x2 actually decrease nora cost?
  4. Cydna

    Cydna Forum Royalty

  5. gamengamenut

    gamengamenut I need me some PIE!

    oh the heck, that changes everything
  6. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    Most of these are fairly efficient as is and wouldnt hurt going up 3 nora. not nearly as much as the theme gets hurt from simply not being able to move on most maps
  7. Ultima

    Ultima I need me some PIE!

    Well if they make some 1x1 they can implement the tribal, something like " if less than 2/3 amount if cyclops are on the field, range is decreased by one to a minimum of 1( 2 eyes better than one ;).) Then include mountaineer to help the 2x2s
  8. gamengamenut

    gamengamenut I need me some PIE!

    A Pathfinder Leg/Exo unit may help but it will become an auto-include.
  9. 0ryuk0

    0ryuk0 I need me some PIE!

    Cyclops sucks at this map
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  10. Bellagion

    Bellagion I need me some PIE!

    Buff Cyclops Runt pls.
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  11. RedScarlet

    RedScarlet I need me some PIE!

    I'd rather have the theme's identity, and have the maps themselves get changed to tailor 2x2s. Otherwise, they're just gonna be a keyword-less Surge, Bulwark, and Stats Stacking theme.At least now they're somewhat diff albeit the diff is a negative lol

    Its pretty fun blocking opponent with tons of meat. Although they do need both shroud and enduring aura.
    And preferrably another Detection clops, to make the thematic BG less predictable.
    And ofc more pathfinder cyclops that are made accessible and have diff roles to that of Alpine.

    If the devs decided to change it to 1x1, be sure to not forget and change Surge: Behemoth to Surge: Cyclops.
    Even now, with all the newer cyclops like warwizard and ritualist, there is already a certain awkwardness in deploying 1x1 clops. (runt being the exception since he's a source of surge behe)
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  12. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    Pathfinder + Preordained pls
  13. Ifem21

    Ifem21 The King of Potatoes

    I like them as 2x2... The map needs to change, to make at least possible to NOT auto lose just because of the map.
  14. gamengamenut

    gamengamenut I need me some PIE!

    i'm thinking of some ability that is a mix of pathfinder and like (make them immune to damage taken from terrian) some Legs or Exos cyc
  15. Raikan

    Raikan I need me some PIE!

    I suspect changing the champs is easier than changing the maps (but I could be wrong).

    Separately, I agree that making Cyclops a stat/boost/surge stacking theme is a poor design decision. Essentially, they'd be 2x2 voil, w/o sonic flight. But this is a problem with focusing on themes in general rather than focusing on mechanics based modules. I'll avoid repeating my typical rant.
  16. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    I too would love for themes to be more than just stat boosting. i feel like people rely on surge too much as something to tie a theme together
  17. Ifem21

    Ifem21 The King of Potatoes

    Agreed. Surge needs to be an complement only, not an "theme central piece". We need more themes like Kanen, Fire Amp, Fairy, Bleed, an so on, with different mechanics.
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  18. gamengamenut

    gamengamenut I need me some PIE!

    LOVE the way kanen work, the whole pack mentality thing. a ton of good themes became surge which is ew. Leoss is nice too.
  19. Gnomes

    Gnomes Forum Royalty

    Lets just make it so cyclops can also walk over fonts. Would make everything much better with these fatties. And they dont loose identity
  20. Phynixe

    Phynixe I need me some PIE!

    You clearly haven't been seeing me stomp the alley with my cyclops lately.
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