Basically when the stupid starts to conflict with our terms of service, so there is a large degree of stupid available to use.
remember that natural stupid is a finite resource, try to recycle your stupid. or get stupid made in your local bureaucratic constructs. basically anything that has politicians, They make tons of it as a byproduct.
I love the current model of Council. it's not hidden, but it's not public as well. we are given some space to speculate and be in a NO-KNOW. we also were given chances to vote, but we don't know results. the way to go.
The Emotional roller coaster one rides simply punching in "10 hours" into the youtube search function...