Avarice

Discussion in 'Underdepths' started by badgerale, Aug 1, 2016.

  1. badgerale

    badgerale Warchief of Wrath

    So this has temporarily been hotfixed to 50nora. It may get a redesign in the near future.

    How are people feeling about it as it is? Worth running at 50 nora? in all decks?

    edit: new version is:

    35 nora - equipped champion gains manic. If equipped on a non-imp it has -4 damage and -1 speed.
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2016
  2. RasielCZ

    RasielCZ I need me some PIE!

    yea, spot manic is still OP and gluttony offsets the -speed so there is no real drawback
     
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  3. Ralphen

    Ralphen I need me some PIE!

    I'm really pi**ed of that for the n-th time a bad designed rune go directly from hero to zero. And there is no point in discuss about a lazy change.
     
  4. SPiEkY

    SPiEkY King of Jesters

    Dunno about 2x auto at 50 nora, I still think it is, but it's definitely still 1x auto in nearly all decks
     
  5. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    I've been running 2x in a Gobbo deck and using them on the king or a gloombringer. Or as needed elsewhere. I reckon I'd still run two.

    In my meta BG I'd run two for the Ireguards.

    So I guess I'd still run two.

    Still can't beat a well played worms deck though...
     
  6. Pedeguerra

    Pedeguerra I need me some PIE!

    Humm, ok.
    I'm really struggling to stay positive, polite and all, but since this rune is too OP for me to handle it nicely, and it really hanst been fixed yet, I will just quote this:

    Summons my thoughts 100%.
     
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  7. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    Agreed. But it's kinda cool in a way for old UD to get something mental for a while.
     
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  8. SPiEkY

    SPiEkY King of Jesters

    Flavor-wise, it is sooooooooo UD.
     
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  9. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    Perhaps it should be more akin to the Helm of Chaos where the champ loses HP each turn, as well as speed? Bezerk frenzy style
     
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  10. Cydna

    Cydna Forum Royalty

    Still x1 for sure. It's probably still x2, we'll see.
     
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  11. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    Still 2x. Just checked.
     
  12. Theoutcast

    Theoutcast Member

    Worthless rune now..not worth running x1
     
  13. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    X1 is ok
     
  14. vipoid

    vipoid I need me some PIE!

    It looks absolutely abysmal now.

    So, I'm paying 35 nora just to gain Manic. This in itself is dubious enough, especially given that (in my experience at least) the AI has a tendency to just bugger up completely. Sometimes Manic champions don't move at all (even when an enemy is just 1-2 spaces away), other times they seem to move in the least logical way possible. At the very least, it's not exactly a bargain to begin with.

    But then it gets better - if I don't put it on an Imp, the champion also gets -4 DMG and -1 SPD. Seriously? Why would I ever include this?
     
  15. SPiEkY

    SPiEkY King of Jesters

    I still love it
     
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  16. darklord48

    darklord48 Forum Royalty

    Manic movement is logical. Just use the Appendix 1 chart on page 15 of the complete rules. This is stickied in General Discussion.
     
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  17. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    X1 is still fine in FF. Useful on Ireguards and others. Thematic.
     
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  18. xxLordQxx

    xxLordQxx I need me some PIE!

    Very disappointing rune. Not that it got nerfed to hell...but the fact its IMP ONLY is garbage. WTF is the point. So to play with new runes I have to run that specific theme. Garbage.
     
  19. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    That's actually a fair point. Now, if it had been GOBLINS, then all would have been well...
     
  20. xxLordQxx

    xxLordQxx I need me some PIE!

    Agreed. That being said I am not a fan of theme only items/spells that arent theme specific. Manic is not a goblin/imp thing. Now a good example of a GREAT thematic rune is blast doors for taurs, or the portal relic. These are theme specific runes that make sense.
     

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