Balancing by deck limit

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Sealer0, Mar 17, 2015.

  1. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    What do you think about the idea of leaving certain very powerful runes just that - very powerful, but with a deck limit of 1?


    Before you barge in whining about inconsistencies and "that's how we've always done things", I'd like to remind you that this concept is already utilized with heroes and named runes (AND GHERN!). I was wondering how do you think this would affect the game.

    Fx. Channeled Violence deck limit 1, Pygmy hippos deck limit x1, jakei elementalist deck limit 1.

    What do you think of this approach to balance, and do you think that it would positively affect the game?


    Sincerely,

    Seal
     
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  2. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    Honestly, I am both for and against this. I can see how it would help diversity, and curve some of their power. I would like to hear more thoughts on this before I can say yay or nay.
     
  3. JaceDragon

    JaceDragon I need me some PIE!

  4. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    Why?
     
  5. Alakhami

    Alakhami I need me some PIE!

    Why not make all runes have deck limit 1? Apart from sibling champs of course.
     
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  6. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    Probably because it would greatly reduce viabillity of decks which rely on certain runes a lot, like myx or amplify decks with ice crystal/dragon skull (bad, but mb there will be buffs). Also, it would probably limit folks' freedom for no reason.
     
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  7. doubtofbuddha

    doubtofbuddha I need me some PIE!

    It would also greatly favor factions that have a wide variety of good runes rather than factions that are kind of crutching on a much smaller number.
     
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  8. JaceDragon

    JaceDragon I need me some PIE!

    Because no.
     
  9. darklord48

    darklord48 Forum Royalty

    It would greatly favor decks that have ways to reveal runes. Obelisk of Foresight would probably become an auto include for ST.
     
  10. Pedeguerra

    Pedeguerra I need me some PIE!

    If we are removing bad abilities from the game, such as font defender, I think a case could be made to remove Preordained as well.
     
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  11. SPiEkY

    SPiEkY King of Jesters

    As somebody who plays highlander most of the time, I would have little to no issues with such a change, however, I'm likely in the minority in that regard.
     
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  12. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    Keep in mind I'm not asking for any change, I'm just wondering if people would consider the game more balanced if there could only be 1 elementalist/gale force in a deck, or if it wouldn't matter.
     
  13. Pedeguerra

    Pedeguerra I need me some PIE!

    I like playing highlander too, unless its 8+ AP of movement on first turn.
    Then I just spam those bad boys.
     
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  14. SPiEkY

    SPiEkY King of Jesters

    I don't think it would matter, for the most part. Having a larger supply of runes to work with (as opposed to a bunch of 2x stuff) gives a deck more versatility, often without having to actually sacrifice the power of having 2x of something. Obviously, some themes would find themselves without enough unique runes to even field a real deck, but those that can, I feel, would find that they would have an overall stronger and more reliable BG.

    But that's probably just my opinion.
     
  15. Molosse

    Molosse I need me some PIE!

    As a player who enjoys Themes I would argue that certain themes would be hit hard if certain runes where forced into a x1 place.
     
  16. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    I agree.

    I was thinking more about the lines of spot removal and universally powerful champions.
     
  17. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    I hate deck limitations.
     
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  18. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    That's a valid argument.
     
  19. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    It is. It takes a lot of fun away from the creativity of bgbuilding.
     
  20. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    I agree, the question here is still, whether this could be a method of balance, and whether that would be effective.

    To justify this question a bit more, I find spot removal and spot-removal-like effects to play way larger role in the game than I would like them to have. Most of them aren't particularly difficult to execute, and can often win font fights without much place for counterplay.
     

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