The best ranged UD unit by far and very few people have access to it. This is very bad, considering the subpar state of many of UD's ranged units and there being few real alternatives. goblin archer range from 3-6 to 4-6, 5-6, 3-5, or 4-5.( i think 4-6 or 5-6 would be best) remove retreat give him 2+ damage 10-15 hp I would like to see him end up at around 78ish nora or less. maybe a little more because of the new formula but not much over. bloodbow infantry add 10 hp to bloodbow infantry or remove ammunition and add 5 hp. add 2 more upgrade lines to the first(maybe execute, flank, or deep wounds) remove thrash add something else(bloodtracker?) 2+ damage pox renovator reduce the cost of renovate by 5 nora add 5 hp nefari shockbow 2+ damage shock 1 in 2nd upgrade line
step 1: make new angel art Step 2: make rainbow rune border Step 3: make new champ that is all faction split rune with same stays as harb but legendary. Bam new rune that won't boffo collectors old Harbs
No it's not, the majority of UD ranged units are terrible. KF actually has some good ranged options. UD harb may be the most powerful and important champion rune in UD.
KF has 8 speed and archer synergy so it's pretty far up there. Only reason it stands out in UD is because UD is not even supposed to have many proper ranged units anyway (AT LEAST BASED ON HOW IT WAS WHEN I STARTED PLAYING BUT WHATEVER). Does pose a mild advantage but I doubt it's the end of the world. I mean, it's silly to complain about something the faction's not even supposed to have (in my opinion) and you could do without.
Relocation and demon relocation were nerfed, so the UD not having powerful ranged units rule no longer applies. Not only that but UD has no cleanse, an overnerfed bodyguard, little to no healing, and not much cc.
Then let us further Firk any notion of faction identity we had and start giving them 7 range deep elves with heal mass and so on. It's whatever at this point. If anything, it's not like you're stuck with Grimlic alone nowadays. You have plenty of options and it's not like UD's anti range measures have gone to hell. UD's cleansing and healing is basically sac and ret, and as far as I know they don't really need more than that. Please don't give everything to every faction.
UD Harb is very good, yes. Even one of the best UD champions atm, yes. But, yeah, the KF and IS Harbs are marginally better due to inter-faction support. That said, Harbs could stand to get toned down, or we could go with the idea that yobles proposed.
UD harb is far more important to a UD bg than any other harb in the game is to their bg. The only other harb that is even close is SL harb because SL ranged units also generally suck, just not as much as UD ones. Also the UD bonus is stronger on ranged units than the SL bonus is, imo. UD harb is stupid, it is way too powerful to be such a rare rune with few to no real alternatives.
The best harbs are the ones that benefit from faction bonus because they all have the same stats and the ones in the factions with the weakest ranged units.
Just nerf harbs or better yet Ban Limited Edition runes from ranked play altogether, unless they are Reskins
I will just drop by to say that all of them benefit from faction bonus - when you don't Ice Storm the Harb because she would receive 3DMG instead of 10DMG, shes benefiting from it. You guys should stop with the fallacy that only stat bonus are relevant. Jeez. Since I have no intention to argue with mw, Im out.
When it comes to generic runes like renovator and harb they benefit the most in factions with strong stat bonuses. Most runes are given stats and abilities with their faction bonus in mind. Runes like harbs and renovator are completely the same in each faction before the bonuses.(obviously)
You wanna play UD? deal with having anti range but not a lot of range and no cleanse and so on....you wanna Play ranged champs? play KF...you can't have everything just because you want it. It's not a must have unit to fill a BG and compete with UD.
I just want to say that if you get sucked into MW's "pox logic" it's going to be very frustrating for you. I LITERALY facepalm everygoddamntime I talk to the guy... It's exhausting
Somebody trade me UD pox renovators pls... ugh. poxbox is selling them for a dollar in the cash shop yet doesn't allow them to be on the trader. ffs.
