Cactuar Crate: Planar Disturbances

I think tornado and pulsar are undercosted by about 5n each.

And can we update the description of bounce to include the duration?

 

Ya know, I get alt damage is valueable and what not, but i'd rather do physical damage and destroy relics than have to pay 10 more and do alt damage + dot
*cough* fire blast *cough*

 

The grounding is nice as well.

 

everything in SL is under-costed xD

 

Is Frostwing Glaive supposed to have Logistics speed on both upgrade trees?

 

So sok talked about this a while back. He said he did this (especially with racials) to a few champs to allow more flexibility in the upgrade paths. However, so many players assumed it was a mistake so he was going to stop doing it.

 

Hmm interesting, do you know if picking it on both upgrade paths actually make the ability stack so it proc's twice or would it just be a wasted pick?

 

It's a wasted pick, you only get the ability once.

 

I just found out what Pulsar does and both of these spells are definitely undercosted.

 

I think Naturalize is undercosted too :20 nora for aoe 5 and 15 dmg!!!

 

Vs summons and relics only.

 

yes is just relics and summons but summons (unless swarmed ST ones) are low hp and relics more or less have 20 or 15 hp, so most of the time Naturalize is very effective with a huge area of effect and a really low cost: I don't want to say it should cost 30, but 25 seems more resonable.

 

Naturalise is fine. I have never put it in a single one of my kf bgs.

 

its really worth in a full magic amp bg where it gets to 20+ dmg, so its like a aoe5 demolish. Outside of there, not really sure if its worth. Not bad, but not sure if worth a spot.

 

Compare to chain lightning, does

 

Skeezick Furnace
-This relic has "Fire Feed" and "Skeezick Furnace"
Skeezick Furnace: destroy target relic within 3 spaces, its owner gains 10 nora.

So.. this relic hasnt seen play since release beacuse SL has a lot better options to deal dmg with a relic (Hive, Gattling Gun, Valdaci Emerald, Scouring Jasper..) and waaay better option for dealing with relics without giving nora to your opponent (Magnetize, Unstable powersource(overload), Skeezick Trigger(explode relic, overload), Valdaci Guardian(reclaim, absorb relic) and all these options are way more movile, i would like Skeezick Furnace to get a redesign, something that helps the equip subtheme that SL has going on:

-(NEW) Skeezick Furnace(like Raider but for equips to work with Valdaci theme and our negative equips): When an equipped enemy champeon is destroyed you gain 5 nora, if the equip was summoned you gain 3 nora instead.
-Train: Salvage Equipment

*The nora gained could be adjusted for balance.

 

Relic are really unmeta right now because of seism, tornado, demolish etc. I think if relics became a thing again, then we could see if the furnace really needs a buff or not. Right now is not a good time to adjust this IMO. In the same line of thinking, not many players equip versus SL anyways, because of reforge.

 

Good point. I have to agree.

 

Furnace has always been bad, regardless of the current meta.

That said, not every bad rune demands a redesign. Any rune that has a unique effect can lead to interesting decks somewhere down the line.

 

What was the purpose of the removal of commander, defender, and boost, relative to themes?