Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SaintKiwi, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. SaintKiwi

    SaintKiwi I need me some PIE!

    Gedden's infamous ability just got a bit more notorious. Cleansing emerald cleanses all dots before you take damage except for rend. Wai? I think not.
  2. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    I would bet this has to do with deploy order in a particular game you played, rather than a global layering trick.
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2015
  3. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    doublepost confirmed

    But yeah, this. Pretty sure rend just works as other DoTs.
  4. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Actually, if you know the exact deploy stamps on each of the components here, that would be helpful data. Still don't have the pin on all the DoT interactions yet.
  5. SaintKiwi

    SaintKiwi I need me some PIE!

    I will post a screenshot. One sec.
  6. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Do you have time stamps for the screen shot? Deployment sequence on things, including relics, influences how these interactions pan out. Also, if any of the DoTs are from spells, that would be useful as well.
  7. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Are you sure it wasnt Eviscerating Luminesence from wolverine?
  8. SaintKiwi

    SaintKiwi I need me some PIE!

    I stand correct. All other dots cleanse before damage except for rend.
  9. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Still gonna need to know the ordering on all elements to confirm -- the DoT applicators, the Emerald, and the golem.
  10. SaintKiwi

    SaintKiwi I need me some PIE!

    Feel free to test it out yourself. From the picture it it is quite apparent. I dropped cleansing emerald two turns before. Golem got attacked by lasher. Lasher applied rend 4. I moved Golem within range of emerald. When my next turn starts it takes damage and then gets cleansed.
  11. Vote Kanye 2020

    Vote Kanye 2020 Better-Known Member

    It's deploy order. Golem was deployed before Emerald, therefore it takes damage from DoT's before emerald cleanses it. Plus that picture isn't apparent at all, for all we know you could have dropped the emerald after that turn began.
  12. SaintKiwi

    SaintKiwi I need me some PIE!

    How? Look at the AP, nub.
  13. Vote Kanye 2020

    Vote Kanye 2020 Better-Known Member

    Your turn started, you gain ap, you deploy an emerald.
  14. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    I'll do just that. Will update here with comprehensive data when I'm done.
  15. darklord48

    darklord48 Forum Royalty

    I guess your emerald

    (•_•) / ( •_•)>⌐■-■ / (⌐■_■)

    has been rendered useless

  16. Baskitkase

    Baskitkase Forum Royalty

    haha, this reminds me of the guy from CSI: Miami. Epic use of sunglasses and side stares to get points across.
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  17. Lushiris

    Lushiris I need me some PIE!

    Hm... You need a higher dose of internets good sir.

    Anyways, we know the problem. Everyone here is aware that deploy order is a common path the game follows when something is wrong, so discussing what came first is a major waste of time since the real issue is that it has to be fixed.
  18. Capitulator

    Capitulator I need me some PIE!

    Here's one example for you:

    Deploy order: Lichling -> Sacred Temple -> Scorpic
    Scorpic then poisons Lichling.
    Poison damage fires before cleanse.
  19. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Thank you! Big help.
  20. Baskitkase

    Baskitkase Forum Royalty

    I think every unit and equip should be given a deploy value. Just a number somewhere on the card. First champ deployed is 1, 40th is 40, etc.

    Also, if a globe occupies a space and I target that space and press "N", it would be great if it would register the nora value of that globe. I don't think we run such a tedious game that we should expect someone to remember what died in a particular spot a few turns ago, memorize it's nora cost, then calculate the globe value.
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