Derifos, Dune Walker

Discussion in 'Rune Ideas and Suggestions' started by fattyy2k, May 4, 2015.

  1. gamengamenut

    gamengamenut I need me some PIE!

    or give him Damage aura (1) and magic aura (1)

    this of course lowers overall damage. but the direction sok is going passive damage is a nono plus it's more flavourful....i mean....it IS MAGIC SAND
     
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  2. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    Heh, fun. I'm not adverse to this either. Seems a little fancy, but whatever.
     
  3. gamengamenut

    gamengamenut I need me some PIE!

    haha, it'll be fun and all, but tough(2) people be laughing haha
     
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  4. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    LOL, I read this again. All I can think of is him doing some jazz hand Bane Shift, with sparkly sand flying everywhere. MAGIC SAND!
     
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  5. gamengamenut

    gamengamenut I need me some PIE!

    THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

    we could have a normal one, where he slams his staff and normal sand spins.

    then a party hat version with the jazz hands for a limited reskin XD
     
  6. fattyy2k

    fattyy2k I need me some PIE!

    I was following the mantel as an example as it give abilities while on sand. Thats easy to take off. The ignoring impeding terrain is to work with his other aoe ability
     
  7. fattyy2k

    fattyy2k I need me some PIE!

    BTW I really hate the idea of giving him a shimmering wings-like ability. I wanna give him a unique active but not sure what
     
  8. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    Added a stance change because I thought Mrparpals suggestion merited a theoretical look at least. Personally I don't have strong feelings for it either way. A nice active would be fun. I'm thinking debuff. Sand being able to debuff, and outlast your enemy is kind of their thing.

    • Cursed Sands: Enemy Champions occupying Sand within (6?) spaces take 5 fire damage, and are Cursed 1, and Frightened for 3 turns. ap 2, CD 4 Cost ?

    Alternatively
    • Cursed Sands: Enemy Champions occupying Sand within (6?) spaces become Poisoned 2, Scoured 2, Cursed 1, and Frightened for 2 turns. ap 4, CD 5 Cost ? (12-20 I'm thinking)


    Under extremely conditions, hilarious. Under normal conditions, potent denial for one of your opponents turns, and very helpful defensive reductions for one rounding.

    I'm personally a fan of option two. Extremely powerful. *Drools



    List of Debuffs
    Sandblasted -3 dmg
    Frightened -3 dmg
    Cursed -1 dmg, -1spd, -1 def
    Poisoned -1 dmg, -1 def
    Scoured -1 def
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2016
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  9. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    He can't keeps 11 damage. With 4-6 range, the 2def/48 hp interaction, including all the damage, and defense boosts he's going to cost in the 100's. An I'm telling you right now, 2 Def 48 hp on a ranged champ isn't going to fly. Especially not when defensive buffs are taken into account.
     
  10. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    What about something like desert master but giving range?
    "For every 2 champions on sands this unit gains +1 max range to a max of +6." that way you kindof avoid the high cost of having long range on base
     
  11. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    He'll still be costed for the range, but in this case he wont be getting what he's paying for until mid game. I like the idea, and don't all at the same time.
     
  12. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Are we sure we want this champ for its ranged basic attacks? wouldnt it be cheaper if it had something like water vortex but with sand and other pseudo rangedattacks to cover that role?
     
  13. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    I think he is a shaman/ranger. Not something that Fatty just envisioned. At the same time the theme needs more range. As for psuedo range. Pretty sure Sok mentioned phasing out abilities that bypass defense, and lean more onto attacks. I'd assume that goes for things like Vortexes, and even Sandspray for that matter. While he is a ranger, propping arrow-shot on him seems wrong. Not to mention the utter lack of a ranger theme in SL to make use of. Leaning into Shaman seems the way to go.

    To answer your question; I don't know, but from my PoV it seems the safest route.



    In the end it may be best for us to not try to hard on a solid design, and just brainstorm. I'm sure Sok has seen the thread, and possibly even keeping an eye on it still. We'll probably end up influencing the end result by pointing out different ideas, and design that might be beneficial or detrimental.
     
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  14. fattyy2k

    fattyy2k I need me some PIE!

    Well after many years I am back and I have updated this idea!
     
  15. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    Welcome Back!
     
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  16. fattyy2k

    fattyy2k I need me some PIE!

    Thanks! It looks like this time may be to stay now that I am over 30 and semi stable :p
     

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