Discussion: Patch Notes July 11th 2014

I like many of the changes... IS demolition team is still far too high! Would have loved Hekatian Arbiter to go below 90... hopefully a future patch will make it more efficient.

 

Say hello to my 94 nora menelaus and my cheaper than dirt falconer. Then i'll deploy ancestral avenger for 84 and angel of restoration for 73. Good work so far on the re-vamp but their will be much rage about k'thir again.

 

I want to get attached to the 66 nora Abomination though!

I just want to see his sprite again!

 

Can anyone tell me what runes are actually more expensive? I don't see any, everything's cheaper.

68 nora pit dragon, Har!

 

Fae are still too expensive for what they do... most of them appear to be the same cost, if not only a few nora cheaper (67 --> 65 isn't saving the Warden).

Several fae got cost increases, I believe.
Rascal Fairy (right?), Fairy Trickster? Maybe I'm wrong... They're all still too expensive.

 

I don't even... 84-nora Ancestral Avenger? Lance Admiral is 78??

But Experimental Warspirit went up from 79 to 89?

I just don't...

 

Easy, warspirit was basing his manageable on a flaw of the formula for 0 dmg champions and so it rised cost, while avenger depends a lot on stats and it benefitted a lot from the changes, this isn't saying they are right, just that it was expected to happen.
Think that warspirit may look bad, but the former sub 60 passive champions look a lot better now, problem there is likely to be in ability costing.

 

Actually... that made even less sense.

Again, unless they changed something I wasn't aware of it:

Experimental warspirit <--> Stitched monolith
0 dmg <--> 0 dmg
7 spd <--> 6 spd
1-2 rng <--> 2-5 rng
1 def <--> 3 def
53hp <--> 75hp

So the EW have better speed, but the SM arguable have more hp, def and better range in both aspects, maximum range and threatened area. I just don't get it. If we were to remove lumbering from the formula, both would cost the same.

EDIT: Will do an experiment a shave nora cost from the abilities (thanks, Nea!), give me a second.

 

What I can't really understand is how in earth zombie behemot brings 73 hp for 48 nora, 5 speed lethargic yes, but still 73 hp.

 

I just want to know why Dogpile wasn't fixed

 

Lumbering and/or Strength of Body probably are the causes. Also, I believe Gedden made large champions -5 NORA less than small champs.

 

Yeah, I'm full-blown not understanding how EW can be so much more expensive than the Monolith, or how, like Gabriel Q said, Zombie Behemoth can be 73 HP for 48 nora. That is just begging for abuse.

 

Don't forget SP hero trio ubber cheap now.

 

I just died of laughter.

 

Biggest thing that jumped in my face so far is Dwarven Tinkerer and Silverclan Engineer. They kinda had it coming though. Oh and Trackstar got slapped pretty hard as well, no one should cry about that one either.

 

I get the feeling Lethargic and Lumbering take away too much.

Lethargic especially. Behemoth could lose that and people would see it as a nerf, not a buff.

The -5 on big champs was needed. I Approve.

 

Also, Christmas Euan still doesn't have the same upgrades as the Exotic Euan.


OMG DWARVEN KING IS CHEAPER THAN 100 NORA IM SO HAPPY