Discussion: Rune Limit 1 on non-Champions

I dont like this rune limit of 1 to be implemented, it would hurt dedicated decks (which almost always are focused around 2x non-champ core runes)

Imo the way to go is not to force the 1x limit BUT to give a bonus to Highlander decks, so if you have a "FH(Full Highlander, 1x each rune in the deck)" you get the full bonus and if you have "UH(Utility Highlander, 1x each non-champ rune in deck)" you get half bonus. kindof how faction bonuses work.
It would also be funny to spell:
Full Faction Full Highlander Sundered Land = FF FH SL
xD


As to what the highlander bonus grants, its another discussion

 

Every ranged attack costs 5 AP instead of 3. A second attack would cost 7 instead of 5. So you need 12 ap to attack twice assuming you don't spend AP to move. Considering most champs only store 11 AP...

 

Ah, I didn't realise it stacked. Kinda be interesting to see how it played out with two.

 

What runes do they lose?

 

Also all the G'hern are still limited to 1 per bg. I know that was implemented quite a while ago. Dont remember the reason tho.

 

And kanen alphas.

 

exotic runes are not hard to get (make) and I don't think there are any leg/lim only runes of that type other than the banners and runes that have already been banned? so I don't see how this idea makes deck building harder on new players. if anything it makes it easier since if youre the type who only wants to run 'perfect' decks youre not forced to get 2x of something.

 

On the contrary, the way i see it it would actually affect non-theme decks, when i build a non-themed bg i pick the ability or interaction i want to build around and add 2x each of those champs, spells, equips and relics, then build utility combos with the slots left. There are not enough champ ability variety to fill an autox2 non-champ rune's slot.
This is why i've asked you several times over the years to add specifil out of faction abilities or even random abilities when a champ has an empty slot, its because players like me see opportunities and come up with cool combos instead of being given a champ with one or two obvious roles... Race, Racial ability, Name or Class are all lazy bases to build bgs from.
Imo this is a stronger relevant point to what you sayd.

 

Collective is FS meta atm Sok. We are talking real themes struggling like mirefolk with 2x vault 2x undertow 2x drown or psy with 2x fork mask 2x psychic blast. Imagine the drop in efficiency of those BGs as opposed to my meta collective where all I lose is marsh song and PHS which is easily replaced.

 

Its easier to get 2x of a rune than 1x of 2 different runes? I still don't see how it's an added burden for new players to have a 1x limit on non champ runes. Theme is usually determined by the champ set isn't it? And champs are still 2x under this idea. Though maybe that's not true for all themes these days. Even so it's usually a good idea to have variety vs doubling down on a specific combo. IMO.

 

I don't think rune acquisition is a problem for pox at all now. the free to play module of this game has been improved so much that realistically only limiteds and new release runes are a challenge to acquire

 

I'm opposed to the general x1 rule to no-champion runes. Too many are designed to function x2.

Spellsurge units would loose a lot of flavor and strength. Decay needs to be run x2 to completely block healing. Graveyard has a lot of uses that begs x2. The runes that are mentioned in other post. And more will pop up if it's looked into.

My point is, that it would nerf certain runes, decks and play styles. Especially some trick decks would be hit hard. Granted some runes would see more play, but it wouldn't make them stronger. So over all this rule would be a blanket nerf with many unknown consequences.

 

how about no