Discussion: Visions of Amareth Midterm

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Senshu, Jan 20, 2016.

  1. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    He went down -8 nora because he lost Summon: Bat. He also had the weird/awkward refuge ability replaced with Voil Caverns.


    Neither of them were specifically changed. Fishkisser got a cost adjustment indirectly via Tortun Shell (Tortun racial being reduced by 2 nora).

    Heretic was probably a similar thing.

    So neither were changed because of "underplayed" but simply continued adjustment and getting the costing of abilities correct.


    It was buggy and causing a lot of problems. The "redeploy" methodology of its current implementation that it is doing that is causing crashes and bugs. At the same time, Projection was basically the same ability but slightly different and has the same issues. This also still affects the spell Misdirection. So expect that something like Projection or Deception to come back at some point without the redeploy implementation in the future.

    This is similar to things like Conduit being removed, which, while cool in theory, just didn't work the way it was supposed to and so has been removed (at least for now).
     
  2. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    Obligatory sad face due to know mention of Korsien Buff.

    :(

    Good job on fixing dreamstate though, now remove dreameater for it so people dont start running it with that instead
     
  3. Ballballer

    Ballballer Chief Antagonist

    It would cost 4 ap for two attacks, unless ponderous is affecting it for some reason. I just played against a Sp player running 2 of the new clops in a clops bg. They were running 2 mangled totems as well, which got kind of annoying its true. But a lot of the damage being done was because I was playing moga on a laptop and couldn't move them every turn, so I think it was a little skewed. Still not very impressed by him, but he does have a lot of hp.
     
  4. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    Tbh rod was cray strong even without the broken interaction with storm field. Dmg for nora was rly good, with just average setup.
     
  5. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Checking.
     
  6. ProR2D2

    ProR2D2 I need me some PIE!

    I see. Thanks for the clarifing. :rolleyes:

    I still think Fishkisser, heretic, and Projenitor might need a small nora cost nerf after the ability cost changes. Projenitor didn't even used the summon bat since he walks around with 25 DMG.
     
  7. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Thanks for the feedback :D

    Also, always love seeing you post because I get to see the Doge.
     
  8. Morfeas

    Morfeas I need me some PIE!

    I was expecting the same thing.
     
  9. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    So the difference with this LE is that it has a unique piece of art, unique idol, and unique animations.

    Unlike typical LEs, which are just recolors of an existing piece of content.

    So it's much more akin to "skins." This LE Outcast De'lim is intended to be a trial run to see if this type of content generates enough revenue to invest more time/resources to it.
     
  10. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    Just thought i'd let you guys know. it's not a particularly game breaking thing but every time the amount of champions relating to power of devotion changes. It removes and then reapplies all the HP Bonuses. Barely impacts gameplay but it just leads to 2's appearing everywhere around de'lim

    Edit: This only happens whenever a unit dies. When deployed it occurs just like bulwark
     
  11. doubtofbuddha

    doubtofbuddha I need me some PIE!

    Well in that case I am glad I accidentally bought it. I would love to see something like this for FS too.
     
  12. Raikan

    Raikan I need me some PIE!

    I'm going to test w/ detonate relic + raider on inferno. There might be some synergy there.

    Also, the relic might be useful in conjunction with cyclops eye belt + slam.
     
  13. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    I made a sig!

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    Does this make me a sellout?
     

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  14. ButterFaceGirl

    ButterFaceGirl Active Member

    Why did you make terraformer completely useless?

    you even took mountaineer from him.

    that's lame
     
  15. SaintKiwi

    SaintKiwi I need me some PIE!

    VOIL CAVERNS OIFHUBVLwqh;oahfnvlbiuqbrheknabf;[EOYVIDFHJKSBVQLWIAHUKJBQRKAHJV,EFLVIUHWKAB,
    OMFG
     
  16. avichaif

    avichaif Devotee of the Blood Owl

    why did u shobox eaun?
    6 spd, surge enemy or Battle Leader
     
  17. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    wut? He's Significantly better now. being over 10 Nora cheaper, having the option to have both an offensive and defensive ability on the same kit helps big time too and is kind of required to justify paying a lot of nora for a champion. He was shoebox previous to midterm they've actually made him really damn good now.
     
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  18. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!

    Sorry, idk if this was pointed out already, but: Voil Queen's limited version only has Summon Bat on its upgrade line, no Voil Caverns. And it also has its upgrade lines reversed when compared to the rare version (as in, upgrade line 1 is upgrade line 2 and viceversa).


    Also, I honestly believe Skywing Patrol needs to lose Dragonflight to be playable. Maybe in exchange for Running Start.
     
  19. Ohmin

    Ohmin Forum Royalty

    Weren't you already a sellout long before this? :p
     
  20. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    Yes. but i'd say its worth the buy so at least you're selling good stuff
     

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