Discussion in 'Ironfist Stronghold' started by Markoth, Jun 30, 2015.
i actually didnt til yesterday as well haha
could we get some updated bgs on here? preferably dwarfs, barbs, pallys
Doing well with this Bg 21-1 so far, but most importantly I'm having fun with it. Too many nerfs to Dwarfs hurt the theme so haven't been bothered with that, don't really like where the Paladin theme is at the moment either. Judging from what Ive seen from other players I'd say Barbarians are probably our strongest BG right now.
So barbs > constructs > mixed meta > grintmaws > paladins > dwarves?
My goodstuff BG is outdated and I haven't used it in a while but good stuff is usually the best or second best.
Barbs > Strux > Dwarfs/Paladins > Grints
Meta is still stronger than Structs, and Dwarfs or Paladins are definitely easier to play than Structs as well.
I completely agree.
The thing I like about Strux is that if you know how to, you can play font down and an uphill battle and win. Paladins don't really have that type pull back and regroup type of feeling.
Men, what they nerfed in dwarf?
Carouse got double nerfed, it costs 1 ap and it has a CD of 2.
Semmirs brew only gives Violent to melee dwarfs
Maeck (Legendary dwarf) his signature ability got nerfed
Keg Toss got nerfed
they nerfed maeck? I notice now this kegtoss nerf, it's a bomb...wow.... And the semmirs brew change is stupid.
yeah they nerfed dwarf, and all this happened in a month?
Isn't Reticulated Splinehawk good enough to see play?
The only reason it sees play at all is for earth golem shenanigans. as a rune on it's own it's pretty garbage
It cuts of Dwarf Driven as well, I faced a BG using this trick and found a really good try
But can be usable on enemies again.
I don't remember. What changed on this? I can't find evidence of a change.
I don't know. Many of the nerf cries have gone, but the ability got nerf cried hard initially for awhile, even outside of the Earth Golem interaction, and I still get complaints about it every so often even now.
It's true, the champ itself isn't good, but that makes sense when it has 14 nora in an ability that benefits some other champion.
Splinehawk seems fine. It has its niche and will be sometimes used to fulfill a specific role but isn't going to be an all the time sort of rune. Though, tbh I have been leaning away from using the splinehawk/earth golem interaction simply because of the fact that it makes the deck a little too draw constrained for my tastes.
I might be mistaken, but I believe the ability timer reset every time a dwarf was attacked.
My bad I was reading it wrong.
Maeck losing Regal Presence and Violent being removed from range and the hard nerfs to Keg Toss were enough to see the theme go back to being average again. All warranted nerfs for the most part but you cant kick the legs out from under a theme without compensation and expect it to do half as well as it had been. Not that I mind really they are still playable and its about time other themes got a chance, Dwarfs were on top for a long time. A little more Construct love and the theme will be one of the most fun to play in the game imo. Barbs are doing fine though I wish the Human/Paladins lost Barbarian they just don't look right in the theme.
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