Is Spirit/Angel Singer broken?

Nora Shield is ridiculous and IS being OP changes ANYTHING!

 

Yeah good thing it has such a short duration so I can ignore it.





This ability needs to die.

 

Spirit singer isn't. Nora shield is though.

On kthun it was pure Nora for a summon half the time, and the other time it was a champion constricting your ranges units.

Catch 22 abilities are ignorant in strategy games.

 

Notice how i said maybe they should think about reducing the the amount of turns on nora shield.

 

But transport so bad cuz its passive bro

 

Nora shield is definitely a strong ability...but it is expensive and only on a couple mostly bad champs. The only version that people actually care about is vashal because its their theme ability. Its also only 1 use and lasts only 1 turn, and vashal all have mediocre base hitpoints until you invest another 120 nora into boost and Fan Faire.

The ability does not even stop you from executing whatever your strategy was.

 

Stop

 

It might be close to as good as a split personality spell that lasts 10 turns and affects all your opponents ranged creatures basic attacks and targeted active skills. But they'd never make a spell like that...oh...right. IS has that.

 

Are you talking about RD?

 

extremely irrelevant post. and also incorrect information, RD protects one champ from range doesnt stop all range and lasts 6 turns. check your facts please

 

Yeah, so it does affect all ranged, even newly summoned ones with ranged attacks, as long as they are targeting the creature u cast the spell on.

My point is that it is a hard counter against a ton of runes ran in most every BG...whereas the nora barrier lets you do whatever you want to them and all they get is a nora refund.

 

"All they get is a nora refund"

You're rare league, right?

 

I'm not any league because I don't play versus mode. Irrelevant to the discussion, unless your goal was to win the argument through character assassination. If you don't like my opinion then disagree and explain why.

Killing someones champ, caping a font and them gaining 50 nora is much less advantageous than RD which stands a good chance of making a creature flat out immune to your opponents attacks for several turns.

 

If you don't play "versus," then why are you trying to act like you understand the competitive value of runes? I think it's obvious to most of us you aren't above bringing in irrelevant information seeing as you keep hanging onto this RD comparison that makes no sense.

 

Using your logic, if I use RD my opponent can still use melee champs to kill my RD champ thus making me waste my nora. But if I attack my opponent's nora shield champ and destroy it, he's gaining nora so he's winning.

 

You seem like a smart guy, but your understanding of the competitive game just isnt up to par. Makes discussing this quite a waste of time.

Nora is love, nora is life. Nora is everything in this game

 

How much nora do you think 1 use of nora shield gains a player on average?

We can assume that most people are not stupid and will try to 1-shot the champ or ignore it.

Do you agree or disagree that it is usually put on a champ that then steps in to contest a font?

15 nora cost, essentially a 1 shot ability(cd8). 3 ap and a range of 3. It's good, but far from OP. Certainly not OP on spirit singer of all things.

Want to discuss the points or keep QQ about my ranked credentials? If you think i dont understand how it works then it should be easy for you to explain why my assumptions are wrong.

 

1 shotting a champ with nora shield will still give you a large amount of nora (Around 50 if the champs on full hp), and ignoring it means you go without a font for 6 rounds (which equates to you being down 72 nora).

So basically it's a 15 nora ability that can pay itself off 3 times over with simply one good usage, i'm not even going to mention that you can use it multiple times because it's relatively rare that it will happen, but still a 3:1 ratio on average is a pretty good going.

 

3:1 is an awesome ratio...but it is up to your opponent to decide, which makes it way more swingy. If your opponent just turns around and Blinks the dude and steps in his space they probably just won the game.

if you invested the effort to kill the cbamp and give your opponent 50 nora, You are probably capping a font and swinging the nora differential that much closer to parity.

The upswing is if you didnt kill their guy they can probably hit u with 2xae spells. Of course against IS....yeah.