Nohkan Do versus Block/Dodge

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Elric, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. Elric

    Elric I need me some PIE!

    Nohkan Do costs 8 nora on a champion, while Block 1 and Dodge 1 cost 6 nora.

    Anyone else see a problem with this?
     
  2. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Nohkan Do requires AP to work and is visible. Block and Dodge are hidden, targetable and require 0 AP.
     
  3. Etherielin

    Etherielin The Floof Cultist

    The targetable and hidden are the two big things about block and dodge.

    Also another thing - they're stackable so if you get any sort of CD reduction, you can stack them both to have multiple block and dodge charges.
     
  4. Elric

    Elric I need me some PIE!

    Good points!

    Although, I still think Nohkan Do is undercosted. At 8, I would want it on ALL my champs!
     
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  5. Etherielin

    Etherielin The Floof Cultist

    I wouldn't as a smart enemy can effectively deny you a lot of potential by controlling your AP.
     
  6. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    It is worth noting that you have to spend more AP to deny 2.
     
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  7. Etherielin

    Etherielin The Floof Cultist

    Agreed, but most of the time you have something that can spend its AP without penalising you much. It's a double-edged sword imo. :p
     
  8. Elric

    Elric I need me some PIE!

    So, K'ento, after activating Silent Contemplation, can hit once at range 1-5 and block 2 attacks EVERY round! What champion can go 1 vs 1 against her???
     
  9. Voidtrain

    Voidtrain I need me some PIE!

    Many, I find. I usually kill Kento pretty easily, or exploit the fact that I can drain her AP.
     
  10. RasielCZ

    RasielCZ I need me some PIE!

    @Voidtrain please give an example, for example in UD there are 2 champs that can 1v1 Kento.
    Deep elf assassin since assassinate can not miss and Vothsair Monstrosity if you take imposing aura over blood rage.
    Everything else just dies to her.
     
  11. Etherielin

    Etherielin The Floof Cultist

    Bok Warden and Bloodletter don't give a damn about NKD and can fight her just fine. Blood Rage champs should also be able to do it.
     
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  12. Voidtrain

    Voidtrain I need me some PIE!

    Judge Torien, myx sandsnipe, valdaci crossbowguy, purple dragon
     
  13. OriginalG1

    OriginalG1 I need me some PIE!

    Fun fact, IS players love to hit Nohkan Do practitioners with hammers.
     
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  14. Fentum

    Fentum I need me some PIE!

    70 Nora Bok Warden is a lovely utility rune.
     
  15. Voidtrain

    Voidtrain I need me some PIE!

    Nohkan Do also doesnt activate if the champ is Distracted. I find that very easy to accomplish.
     
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  16. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    I am partial to Instill Panic. Its cheaper.
     
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  17. concealedweapon

    concealedweapon I need me some PIE!

    I prefer to wait until she uses Silent Contemplation and cast Righteous Deflection on a nearby champion, causing her to attack herself.
     
  18. Chris

    Chris I need me some PIE!

    I think we can close this one down now :)
     
  19. Ballballer

    Ballballer Chief Antagonist

    Distract is cheaper cuz SP is bedr
     

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