Protective stacking is making it hard for me to enjoy molesting the weaker champs in themes

I'm having a hard time getting my groove on when I see all those 20+ damage range champs.

DOG pls

 

Yup don't really understand why it doesnt have a cap

 

it just shouldn't stack.

 

I will not find it hard to molest the little ones with this change.

Thanks based sok!

 

+6 damage for ranged champs still pretty good. Remember that time when we tried to removed ranged sunder from the game, and then we introduced ranged protective which is actually stronger. Endless circles we go in this game.

 

Are there going to be 2 different protectives or is it a nerf for the ability as a whole?

Btw sunder still applies a -2 def penalty, while the debuff says -1 def. Which one is correct?

 

Capping Protective is definitely the easiest solution. Alternatively you could only have it proc when friendly champions within 5 spaces are attacked. Or we can get really creative and do something like:

Protective: When a champion you own that shares a race or class with this one is attacked by a basic attack it gains one stack of Protective.

Protective Stacks: This champion's next basic attack deals +2 damage.
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It wouldn't effect a units damage total so it wouldnt amp things like Cone but a champion could get lots of stacks and then unleash it into one attack.

 

Could even make it so the stacks work like Zephyr Shield and are removed one at a time on each subsequent attack.

 

Circles my man circles. Anything stacking on ranged is a bad idea, we learned this with dots, deep wounds, sunder. Not hard to trigger protective as your champ gains it when your champs are attacked, and it's a "global buff".

Gaining +6 damage on range is still gonna be overpowered, it just shouldn't be on range champs period. Say a champ has 6 damage, your now putting him at 12 without other damage buffs coming into play.

I'm interested to see what the new protective costs compared to things like piercing shot that cost extra ap.

Also remember when I said that new lonx was gonna be too strong, hate being so right.

http://forums.poxnora.com/index.php?threads/list-of-good-new-runes-from-latest-expansion.23727/

 

Protective is 4 nora, Pierching shot is 3/6/9

 

The thing is, all magic damage Lonx are "support" apparently. I'm not even asking for an efficient one, just one with damage.

 

I like this

 

I agree with sunder and rank 3 dots being stronger, and also agree it's a bit much on ranged champs unless it's changed. I think your underestimating just how strong +2 ranged damage is especially when it's triggered so easily. Look at things similar global spells/abilities that grant additional damage and how highly they are valued. I understand that your opponent controls it, but if your opponent isn't attacking every turn to not trigger your +2 damage they are doing something wrong.

The piercing shot comparison was strictly comparing the cost of both for their damage output. Essentially piercing shot can have one of those damage modifiers but can only happen once per turn and costs additional ap. Protective allows multiple high hits per turn with no cool down.

Saying that it's not very easy to trigger and requires some sort of strategy to get the buff is naive. If it wasn't global I might agree, but for now it is.

 

Ah screw it protective stacking to +6 damage in range is fine



Expect another nerf in a month or so to fix the same thing