So... Ravenspeaker

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by devrn, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    Because morph isn't an incredibly bad joke right now
     
  2. darklord48

    darklord48 Forum Royalty

    I don't know, is it? I don't have one, and I don't follow the meta.
     
  3. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    SL needs more Demi-gods
     
  4. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    Yeah, I don't think you need to follow the meta to realize how incredibly bad morph is right now. Also, support champs with 8 damage won't really change much in terms of me killing things with it
     
  5. darklord48

    darklord48 Forum Royalty

    I don't follow champs out of my price range either, although if it's as bad as you say, maybe I can get one now.
     
  6. devrn

    devrn I need me some PIE!

    You've been arguing with us this whole time and don't even have knowledge of the meta? Bruh
     
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  7. Ballballer

    Ballballer Chief Antagonist

    Ive been laughing so hard at this entire conversation hahahahaha
     
  8. darklord48

    darklord48 Forum Royalty

    You think only the meta deserves attention? Bruh
     
  9. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!

    Actually, I think he's simply saying being familiar with the meta is a minimum requirement in order to discuss this properly.
     
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  10. Ballballer

    Ballballer Chief Antagonist

    Bahahahaha dude......just stop
     
  11. Boozha

    Boozha I need me some PIE!

    cough cough salamannegamage cough
     
  12. Baskitkase

    Baskitkase Forum Royalty

    CHAMPIONS WITH THIS ABILITY
    NameExpansionNoraRarityFaction
    Angel of WarAncient Awakenings85LimitedSL
    Angel of WarAncient Awakenings85LegendarySL
    Draksar ConsulateSkeezick Rebellion81LegendarySL
    Draksar High MarshalBonds Of War79LegendarySL
    Draksar High PriestDire Covenant74LegendarySL
    Draksar SpellswordGrimlic's Descent65CommonSL
    Kanen CroneMaljaran Frontier86ExoticSP SL
    Kanen CultistMaljaran Frontier84RareSP SL
    KierganaMaljaran War80ExoticSL UD
    Negation MageHeroes of Maljara63CommonSL
    Prismatic SkywingPlague of Ba'lah93ExoticSL
    Serpentor ParadigmPlague of Ba'lah72UncommonSL
    Skeezick ArthromancerDire Covenant72CommonSL
    Skeezick FilcherSavage Tundra Expansion63RareSL
    Skeezick WarmageAncient Awakenings74RareSL
    Skeezick WylderHeritage78CommonSL
    Sundered DoombringerRise of Serkan87LimitedSL
    ValdacRise of Serkan96ExoticSL
    WyrmpriestRise of Serkan78UncommonSL

    These the 18 you are talking about Gedden?

    This list looks more like 5-6 to me, and half of that depends on if you are playing Skeeick or not. Two of the six are extremely rare and expensive (angel, doom).

    That leaves you with pretty much Valdac and possibly Negation Mage or Kanen Crone out of their themes.

    I don't want to be negative nancy... but if I'm being honest its just coming out this way.
     
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  13. darklord48

    darklord48 Forum Royalty

    I would argue that we're really focusing on the wrong problem. If Incorporeal didn't give immunity to every damage type except for Magical, we wouldn't be looking at adding Attack: Magical to various champions. Understanding which abilities require hard counters that aren't readily available is necessary to discuss this.
     
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  14. Anotherblackman

    Anotherblackman I need me some PIE!

    Same reason why hooligan lost scour. The games not about nice things its about balance.
     
  15. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    The difference between magical attack on ravenspeaker and hooligan getting scour on top of sunder isn't just 'nice things'.
     
  16. Baskitkase

    Baskitkase Forum Royalty

    What is lol about this is why hooligan lost scour instead of sunder.
     
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  17. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    Word.

    Ravenspeaker doesn't need attack magical. Incorporeal needs to not be immunity -> everything but magic.

    And why would you buff draksar shifter, he's top of the line already, meta viable.
     
  18. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    I like how both balance and lore just got ***** in that one chance.

    50% chance of getting it right, the odds are never in our favor
     
  19. jeeperz2

    jeeperz2 I need me some PIE!

    If you look at FS its pretty much the same. We don't have many champions with attack magical unless you play tortuns, or aquatics. Most aren't even that strong, The best one is probably Geekal.
     
  20. Emries

    Emries Devotee of the Blood Owl

    Geeky is still better than most magical options for the majority of factions. And let's not hop onto this add more magic train when your faction (FS) has some pretty good diversity in terms of champions with attack magic - see snaptooths, firks, salaman negamage that is being used for summons already, tide master, etc :p
     
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