SP Tips Thread

Discussion in 'Shattered Peaks' started by Vorian, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. Vorian

    Vorian I need me some PIE!

    This is a thread to post any tips you have with sp. I will start it off.

    Aggressively contest fonts with ur voil, as they can ignore terrain restrictions.
     
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  2. AKHolic

    AKHolic The King of Potatoes

    Equip harpoon on your less useful moga to reel the enemy in for the kill! Or engage the enemy with a moga and equip it with slavers whip and cliff dive it if available!
     
  3. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!

    Obligatory Garin + Zealotry/Havoc's Touch/Tempest Crown mention.
    (well, they're all SP runes, though Garin needs to be in a split.)
     
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  4. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    Lighting Rod + Lighting Storm, Especially effective over water. (Cyclonic Fesh, specifically the ability Electric Overload makes this more efficient to pull off.)

    Ball and Chain can be used to kill any flying unit over a Chasm. Avalanche works as well.

    Cyclops Stonecaller (Create Chasm) + Slavers Whip. Create the chasm then walk your opponent into it. Also works with Knockback champs.

    Unstable Ground + Voil. Your champs will be unaffected by it unless grounded.

    Crack the Earth + Cyclops Eye Belt. Use CoE to raise a AoE 2 wall, then use Cyclops Eye Belt to Knock enemies into it. If used correctly. You can kill off 1 champ at least, and block access for the others.

    Relocation effect (Pull, Knockback, Relocate Foe ect) + Rock Trap. If positioned correctly you can potentially kill the enemy champ. If not instant kill them from a chasm.

    Overcharge Golem (Paralytic Strike) + Stormrack/Thunderhead Totem Very easy to pull off. Kinda costly, but if you pick your targets it might win you a game. A lot of damage potential.

    Peaks Dew (Sustain: Unstoppable) + Serf to Djinn If it wasn't obvious, Unstoppable prevents loss of AP meaning that Serf to Djinn has no downsides other than having to keep positioning in mind.

    Vertical Push: This rune removes the enemy champ from play for a certain period of time. This means any equips that were on the champ that got removed from play goes back on cooldown.

    Bad Blood: Against theme bg's this is an effective way to destroy illusions, detect stealth, and do massive amounts of damage overall.

    Disarray: A big part of playing Poxnora correctly is learning how to position. If you can cast this at the beginning of your turn. Chances are it will ruin the enemies positioning netting you a kill or 2, and ruin any plans they had for their next turn. This is even more effective in a Voil bg if you are running Unstable Ground. As it will cause them to move on the terrain.
     
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  5. Silfeed

    Silfeed I need me some PIE!

    Sp's advantage is in summons. Be sure to have a somewhat steady flow of reinforcements. If killing a champ means you wont have the nora to summon for a while, it might be worthwhile to just summon and then retreat your engaged guys until you can swap them out if needed
     
  6. SPiEkY

    SPiEkY King of Jesters

    Moga are expendable, just throw them at the enemies until there's no more enemies, then thrown out some more of them because they're already off cooldown.
     
  7. Paper Skull

    Paper Skull I need me some PIE!

    Consider running an Intimidation. Having two more creatures than an opponent isn't uncommon, especially if you're running any summons, and a global -4 DMG -1 DEF for 6 turns tends to be good.

    Remember that the ultimate goal of the game is to destroy the enemy shrine. Ritual of Binding can prevent transfiguration, and preventing the opponent from saving a low HP shrine.

    Moga Decoy is the lowest cost rune in the game, at 15 Nora. The decoys are able to drop relics, body block enemies, and synergize well with Surge: Moga and Spell Charged units. Running a Voil Sorcerer allows them to be cast for only 10 Nora.
     
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  8. Ballballer

    Ballballer Chief Antagonist

    So most of these suggestions are trash
     
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  9. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!

    This is a good example of a post achieving nothing constructive. Offer some tips yourself instead.

    Unless you're afraid to put yourself in a position where someone else can say that about your suggestions.



    EDIT: Or hey, how about picking the suggestions apart and explaining why they are bad/not worth it. That sounds useful too.
     
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  10. Vorian

    Vorian I need me some PIE!

    Can we have some tips from the SP master?
     
  11. Ballballer

    Ballballer Chief Antagonist

    I will, but ive got a test tomorrow and dont have the time right now to analyze and respond to all the tips
     
  12. Ballballer

    Ballballer Chief Antagonist

    I will, i just dont have the time right now
     
  13. Raikan

    Raikan I need me some PIE!

    My thoughts on various combinations that can be used:

    Voil King's Crypt (and to a lesser degree Instigator) + Sceian: Usually this can result in an on-demand swarm.
    Avalanche or Hyaenid Spearman (w/ ground, although he's pretty overcosted imo w/o loyalty and with deadeater, dogpile and cackle adding 15 nora) + Voil Skythrash: Ensures you'll get the +50% bonus damage from groundstriker (haven't personally tested this yet-overwriting flying w/ another ability spell seems like it might be buggy).
    G'Hern Thrower/Voil Transporter/Shallaxy w/ Swap + Moga Sappers + Moga Cannon: Sappers can be used to extend the range of artillery to 4, and can result in an additional 38 damage in aoe 2. Peaks Ifrit can be added as well.
    Moga Recruiter + Alacrity + Sceian + Vicious Harpoon: This adds 12 spaces to your threat range against a single champ.
    Moga Trapper + Vicious Harpoon or Slam/Eye Belt : If you stack 4 traps in a single space, that's 36 or so damage. Plus, you get a moga that has a 1:1 nora:hp ratio.
    Voil Windstriker w/Power Attack 3 + Sceian/Transporter w/ Lift
    In a deck w/ lots of equips/relics, Calcified Lurker w/ Recycle & Reclaim can be very efficient. If he uses a single recycle on Slaver's Whip/Vicious Harpoon/Diamond Mace/Solstice Staff, you're getting a 55 hp, 2 def, calcify champ for 30-40 nora.
     
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  14. Raikan

    Raikan I need me some PIE!

    I feel like any lightning rod based combinations are far too expensive/difficult to pull off now. They rely on an opponent lumping his champions together more than before (i.e. illusion of lies was removed from slag overmind); they are more expensive because we no longer have a ranged overload unit that allows us to access a damage transfer equip for free (i.e. cyclonic fesh is melee); and they are doubly more expensive because we have to rely on a nora costing ability to generate the damage (i.e. thunderhead totem or lightning storm) because our lightning storm champions are less viable: b. bolt has 18 nora of semi-useless/detrimental abilities (storm chief, wind aura, imm. elec.) and storm caller's damage was nerfed into the ground.
     
  15. Ballballer

    Ballballer Chief Antagonist

    It is pretty much an instakill for 2 slots and 70 nora. If superchamps start dominating the meta im definitely running that combo
     
  16. Raikan

    Raikan I need me some PIE!

    I agree. I haven't seen too many superchamps lately, but the game can always change. Also, the ones that I have seen typically depend on build-up and an equip, so vertical push works better while rod is difficult to equip w/o diamond mace. Often, whispers appears to be a better option for stalling the huge nora investment for long enough to win the other font, but point well-taken.
     
  17. Vorian

    Vorian I need me some PIE!

    Yeh same.
     
  18. Oldmaster

    Oldmaster I need me some PIE!

    @Ballballer I am ready for my educumation, sir.
     
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