summon relics are cancer

I have faced the deck a few times the past few days and my biggest issue is not losing units to Burstcade but that the deck is incredibly hard to advance against. Even if you position yourself so as not to lose multiple units per 'Bursticade' you are then staring at a wall of 4-800 HP (With Mason Spire) that is surrounded by Deep Snow. I would consider my deck particularly suited to face it with 2 Terraformers with Lava Storm and 2 units with Ruin but by the time I finally break through the walls it is being used a second time.

 

This is just theory, but I can't think of any good way to position against the combo at all.
Even if you totally split up, they still get 2 48dmg bursts.
So the other option would be to group up in a way to stop barricades being spawned, but then any sort of aoes will hit all your guys, and the bursticade will hit even more champs even if it does less to each.

 

Trash

 

The issue isn't the combo, it's that masons spire was put on a champ that combos his own ability. Jesus people, just remove masons spire from him, problem solved.

 

I've faced the bg more than 3 times, lost only against Kokon, shrine rush helped me, indeed as @davre stated the bg playstyle is getting more accurate ( not single target but double most of the time)...the stalling with deep snow equipment helps the bg to do not reach easily Shrine or fonts, and even if they are below on fonts the impeding terrain make.

update, davre joined the bs bg, lost even if I think i've played well ( the barricades didn't lasted so long for a double dreamcrusher deploy without a mason spire champion out, but still killed 2 of my champ in one turn , one was at 8 hp)

 

Yeah I'm testing the deck out. I disagree with Sok's & Super's assessment that the deck's power runs through mason's spire on lodestone. My deck doesn't even have lodestone in it. Just some relic synergy and some frost synergy. Very small sample size but 3-0 so far. I'll do 40 games like I did with skeletons.

 

It is very poorly designed that the aura and terrain never goes away. I also disagree with every st unit getting +1 damage on snow for no cost.


I faced this deck, I was using some sort of experimental deck and lost. But some of it really was horrible, and almost all of it was not fun. It did seem not very strong in all honesty (aside from a few things) and st meta is probably stronger. Very unfun to play against.

 

The initial AoE 9 of impending 1 snow is a huge deal. If am caught with mostly melee units it can take multiple turns to set up one barricade kill. Barricades themselves can be difficult to target for an attack. If the Barricades have a form of short lived, it would still allow for a strong offense turn fallowed by board control for "x" number of short lived turns.

Edit- I think the mason spire ability is cool, I would rather see a short lived deal on barricade then have mason spire changed. (On a champ or relic)

 

Perhaps Snowburst grants short lived to all relics, +5 nora to cost?
Edit, it would keep all the original abilities. Would make Snowburst so annoying.

 

How about making snowburst not last indefinetly?

 

Just encountered davre's use of this hated deck.

Wow, just wow, what a great way to chase away players!

It's absolutely ZERO fun to play against. Just no strategy, except to stall until you get the nora and runes available. Then, bam, you basically can Barricade and Snowburst all your enemy's champs.

Just sad that this isn't just plain banned from the game.

 

I did pretty well against @davre 's deck using squishy KF. Naturalize, the spell, was absolutely essential for countering the deck. I won against him twice and perhaps could have won a third game if my Avatar didn't get wedged in by, you guessed it, Barricade. If I didn't transfigure I probably, maybe, sort of, could have gone 3-0 against the deck?

Then again, if Mason's Spire were in play, Naturalize would have failed.

Edit: From my "getting back into Pox but not quite there" perspective. The snow was the most annoying feature of the spell.

 

So, are you saying that you were able to beat him a couple of times because you put a counter (Naturalize) in your deck that was specifically targeted at him? Just curious.

 

trip report:

19 games -> 13 wins, 6 losses. One of the losses was a game crash/disconnect vs lightsmith (one of the other bursticade players) on a turn where I was about to take out 3 champs with the combo and was already ahead.
The crash wouldn't let me get back into the game and after a full reboot of my comp I had timed out. Very disappointing.

The other 5 times, I was vsing rush decks where I never drew/had nora for the full 120n combo. 2 of those losses were vs xirone who was packing Naturalize, as he mentioned. If more than one person ran it, I would consider adding in the lodestone for the extra hp, but I'm not going to do it for one player. I haven't even been mathing properly or planning out my game in other ways, and still leave champs alive due to laziness. It seems extremely powerful so far.