terraformer op

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bellagion, Aug 2, 2015.

  1. Bellagion

    Bellagion I need me some PIE!

    tenletters ayyyy
     
  2. Beasts for life

    Beasts for life The King of Potatoes

    Aww man make a new one
     
  3. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Call the papers the people must know!
     
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  4. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    cool design but his nora cost makes no sense.
    does 75 nora sound better or would that shoebox him?

    I wonder if the bigger problem is his cost or his set of abilities.
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2015
  5. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    i love you
     
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  6. Goyo

    Goyo I need me some PIE!

    IS is tarded
     
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  7. Pixyrus

    Pixyrus Forum Royalty

    IS is just broken in general.

    Everything can be a tank/damage dealer with all that boost Bane Shift. And RD, wtf?
     
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  8. Netherzen

    Netherzen I need me some PIE!

    Nerf IS.
     
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  9. DrSteve

    DrSteve I need me some PIE!

    It's cost for sure. Being able to round 1 drop a 90 nora champ as P1 and then follow it up with a terraformer the next turn aint alright.
     
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  10. DrSteve

    DrSteve I need me some PIE!

    Imperator is actually a balanced rune tho. I dont think ability spam is inherently stronger than a basic attack based champ; like everything else it just needs to be correctly costed based on what it's bringing to the table.
     
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  11. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    I think imperator is ok because of his cost.
     
  12. MovnTarget

    MovnTarget Forum Royalty

    My issue is it's non dmg bound bombs allowing it to deal 12 dmg bombs while not paying for dmg. This coupled with tremor and terraform lava allows for substantial dmg to be dealt with nary a nora spend on dmg.
     
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  13. OriginalG1

    OriginalG1 I need me some PIE!

    excellent point
     
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  14. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Gotta remember his AoEs have a longer CD and smaller AoE than actual bombs.
     
  15. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Same AoE: 2.
     
  16. Bellagion

    Bellagion I need me some PIE!

    Smaller AoE? How so? Lavastorm & Rock Slide are both aoe2, which is the same as Fire Bomb, Frost Cone, Acid Bomb, Lightning Storm, Magic Bomb...
     
  17. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Well thats embarrassing. Brb need more coffee...
     
  18. Goyo

    Goyo I need me some PIE!

    Nice try...
     
  19. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    markoth trying to downplay the terraformer :p
     
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  20. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Nah. Buggers OP but just needs a cost tweak. As a passive unit it likely has a manual modifier that can be reduced. If not you can peg it with a sandbag like Trail: Rock. The question is is what is the ideal cost? He does have the downside of no basic attack so Distract can shut him down completely. He also has no damage so you cant bypass this with Attack granting equipment, but really how much of a downside is that? He also has CDs that cause turns that he cant do anything but move. These points aside he is very effective. He is getting a nerf there is no way around it. I just hope that he doesnt get butchered in the process.
     
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