Theme Adjustments #2 - Maljaran Races

Also, lava front is a lower aoe

 

exactly so we need lower cost perhaps 4-5 nora as sass suggested

 

I don't follow

 

sass analysed front abd said it was over costed so it should reduce by 5 nora as well as tunnel vegetation is overcosted so it can loose 1-2 nora so that leoss druid is cheaper

 

Yeah, but we also just dismantled his reason, so I think the cost should probably stay as-is, considering it's the only front that actually impedes in an aoe3 (whereas lava front is aoe2 and water front doesn't impede)

 

More accurately tunnel veg should cost 2/4/7 (or maybe 2/5/8) not 2/6/10 and jungle front should cost 6 Nora not 8. These 2 ability cost reductions (of which jungle front exists solely on the druid) would bring its price within reason.

 

The sheer volume of thematic and factional synergy warrant lava and water fronts cost. There is no substantial synergy warranting jungle fronts cost. Hell, sand front does more offensively in theme than jungle does defensively yet sand front costs 4 Nora and can't be countered, where as jungle front can be countered via flight, leap, mountaineer, etc.

To top it off the druid also pays 4 extra Nora for trailblazer so your own champs aren't penalized by impeding veg. So it's basically a 12 Nora ability in effect.

 

I just want my freaking Tortuns to not suck as hard as they do now. Is that pushing it so hard.

 

(Stating the obvious)

Leoss = IS/ST split.

ST spell: Cleansing Storm
IS spell: Disarm
IS spell: Unobstructive View

Could be used in a full Leoss battlegroup without having to bring a non-Leoss champion in the fold.

I have seen non-Leoss brought in for ranged options, such as Scarlet Wing. But if we do reduce the cost of the Leoss Druid, it will help.

However, I would like to have Paragon of Ailur to be changed back to a healer as he was prior to revamp. If we can add Cleanse to one upgrade path and heals (single, mass, DF) to the other, he would finally be used. This would eliminate the need to bring in PoV for DF and heals, and another champ or spell for cleanse. Here is the thread for his proposed changes:

Paragon of Ailur proposed changes

 

If we can make this change to have Paragon the main healer for Leoss, we could remove heal from the Leoss Druid and focus more on range damage dealer for him instead of wasting the spot for heals on him. Thoughts?

 

Leoss really do need a lot of work, Magnates have been practically shoeboxed, leoss Druid is just too expensive, I think he would be better off losing heal and become a little more cost efficient, say replacing heal with some sort of shape shift. Give the heal to paragon because he's just terribad. Leoss beaters for the most part are ok except for ward, he really needs his evasive back imo.

 

For once I agree with you

 

Agree on too expensive but tunnel is needed on him I say remove heal and make him more of a druid say shapeshift into something, and let the paragon get the heals

 

BUFF KANENS! or create new KANES!! and throw away Kiergana, she's crap with 5 spd - give us a new Kanen split hero! WEEEEEEE
(i know no one wants this) xD
HATERS!!
and melting stitched with constructs it's a dumb idea -_- just like mine wanting a new split hero

 

Agree completely. Wards used to protect others with AOE defense buff, which matches it's flavor to protect Ailur. Now he just protects himself.

Magnates need DF and Haste on separate upgrade paths. Druid drop heal and become range go-to guy, or how about Improve Range?

 

Librarian with portal, detect and shatter is amazing not often i prefer random stacked abilities but in this case I LIKE IT

 

Not only did Stitched Seamstress not get buffed, but she got nerfed AGAIN by adding 6 nora to make her 73 nora. Very disappointing!

 

ALL I've seen is Sokolov give us the "Obamacare" promises and sell us on crap then do as HE pleases. This has been the WORST patch in history of pox in the almost 8 years I have been playing

 

This has probably been one of the best patches in the history of pox since I've been playing.