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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Ragic, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. Ragic

    Ragic I need me some PIE!



    youre welcome
     
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  2. st3ck

    st3ck I need me some PIE!

    Pox should have never gone free to play, I agree
     
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  3. Tarabostes

    Tarabostes I need me some PIE!

    I lost it after he mentioned Sony.
     
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  4. Dagda

    Dagda Forum Royalty

    you actually learned something from that?


    jeez, ragic. duller than i thought
     
  5. Gaverion

    Gaverion I need me some PIE!

    I am seeing why sok told me to not put much stock in EC, there is a lot wrong with what they say.
     
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  6. KelRama

    KelRama The King of Potatoes

    i came.
     
  7. Boozha

    Boozha I need me some PIE!

    qft
     
  8. Ragic

    Ragic I need me some PIE!

    read title again, try harder

    I mean really people, if you cant correlate what was said in that vid to EXACTLY what happened to pox then the fanboyitis is terminal.
     
  9. Boozha

    Boozha I need me some PIE!

    Kinda sorta meh-ish, but only tangentially

    Als0 his praises for Hearthstone are hilarious, or maybe sad, can't decide
     
  10. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

    so is pox going to die soon?
     
  11. PurpleTop

    PurpleTop I need me some PIE!

    This is good, however I think both dota and LoL are good f2p models. This does absolutely apply to pox tho
     
  12. Boozha

    Boozha I need me some PIE!

    Back in the day maybe, not anymore. If someone is whale here then by choice.
     
  13. Ragic

    Ragic I need me some PIE!

    those who fail to learn the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat them. we don't know if legs will be added to the forge. we don't know what level of powercreep the next expansion will bring. we don't know if legs will slowly morph back into must have runes that sell for 200 at poxbox. it never hurts to stay vigilant. try not to let a knee jerk anti-EC sentiment (endorsed by sokolov, ooooooo) get in the way of recognizing the truth when you hear it.
     
  14. Boozha

    Boozha I need me some PIE!

    And you tell what the truth is and not anybody else. Huh, thats convenient

    Yeah, lets stay vigilant, but not paranoid
     
  15. PurpleTop

    PurpleTop I need me some PIE!

    I wouldn't call it paranoia when exactly all the attributes mentioned in the video can be applied to pox. What we can have is faith that when DoG finally releases new content and balance patches that it will give the game new life. So far it has been unsuccessful, as much as I would like to say otherwise
     
  16. Boozha

    Boozha I need me some PIE!

    You are too impatient, the greens have said from the beginning that they will fix it step by step and not bumrush it.
     
  17. PurpleTop

    PurpleTop I need me some PIE!

    I know, but their steps so far have been largely unsuccessful. I'm not doomsaying, I'm just saying that the loss of players due to a faulty model is not paranoia; it's real. I'm just as excited as you are to see what the final draft will be like, but we may not keep enough players around to support it when it happens
     
  18. Ragic

    Ragic I need me some PIE!

    only time will tell, but its easier to have hope if you agree with the design philosophy of the devs, and that is best evaluated by what they DO not what they SAY. so far I have liked SOME of what they have done and SOME of what they have said.

    im skeptical by default because even the best intentioned dev is going to have problems trying to make pox work using a tcg business model. however, hearthstone seems to have found a way to satisfy both whales and f2p'ers. You need both. Pox is not hearthstone and its approach will need to be unique to pox. I understand that. do the devs? are they just hoping by some miracle that they can put a new paint job on pox and start getting mtg like money? I think if they want financial success they are going to have to approach the new pox with the proper philosophy. that you need both whales and f2p'ers. what we have RIGHT NOW does not seem to accomplish either very well. so some criticism is in order.
     
  19. Molosse

    Molosse I need me some PIE!

    I mean Hearthstone is still going strong and CAN be played completely F2p once you reach an ok skill.
     

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