We discuss doomsday revamp changes ITT

Discussion in 'Sundered Lands' started by Jib, Jun 26, 2014.

  1. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!

    I don't either, honestly. That doesn't mean he didn't feel very strong. It could be because of the way everything else has changed, I don't know. I am currently testing other things, so it would be great if someone could try him out and confirm/deny.
     
  2. Hekwit

    Hekwit Devotee of the Blood Owl

    Old good dragons are quite nice now. Maulers, varu dragons, flame/acid dragonleech - they must be in new dragon deck now becouse of its cost.
    rumbler and neodrak somehow slipped through revamp...:rolleyes:
     
  3. PurpleTop

    PurpleTop I need me some PIE!

    Ouch.... mimic
     
  4. WraithxxV

    WraithxxV Active Member

    Rumbler is insane with Surge: Dragon 2, and there's a lot of good dragons out there now. Neodrak doesn't seem op though.
     
  5. Hekwit

    Hekwit Devotee of the Blood Owl

    Neodrak maybe is not op... but this rune is fantastic for its cost. 67 nora, 12 dmg, vindictive, acid attack.. especially now..
     
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  6. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    I want mengclan to get back his nora control, even if it doesn't give net nora advantage anymore.
    Broodguardians could get regen 2 base and ranks of ammunition to lower his price.
     
  7. Emries

    Emries Devotee of the Blood Owl

    Would rather have Pull back than nora control abilities tbh :p
     
  8. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    you can get pull somewhere else, like, in archnic
     
  9. MovnTarget

    MovnTarget Forum Royalty

    I have to agree with Gabriel. Pull was nice to have. But the nora control he brought with backlash and that active ability of his were what made him special.


    You mean that overpriced bug that is still stuck at 5 speed?
     
  10. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    Make him good and give him pull, and abot the mengclan interrogator, I wanted nora bound more than backlash, because watching your enemy trying to sustain a rush that gives him no nora advantage is hilarious.

    And, while 5 speed units won't be useful withot some additional pseudo speed, I think that SL needs a vitalize unit
     
  11. Emries

    Emries Devotee of the Blood Owl

    Now that Broodqueen lost some stuffs, Vitalize might be a good replacement on her for a lot of reasons (go go hatchlings).
     
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  12. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    For some weird reason, vitalize doesn't work with summons, while foment does, for example.
     
  13. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!

    I still miss Invigorate on her so much T_T. I loved the cool move with Broodqueen dropping from Skywing Patrol's Beacon and giving Patrol AP to attack.

    Speaking of which, Patrol was obv too much with Sunder, but now he costs a lot for what he does imo (to the point where in Dragons I barely run him at 1x and added an actual Skywing Beacon and I VERY rarely deploy Patrol anymore). I guess that's because his damage is considered good for a post-revamp ranged unit (while I'm still functioning with pre-revamp mentality). Despite that, I frequently find myself wishing he had something to soften defenses a bit, even just a non-stackable -1 def on attack. In theory that role has been relegated to Acidcraw and he does a decent enough job, but I still miss it on Patrol. It also has to do with the amount of beefiness many champs have now. If Dragons were balanced though (as in, I wouldn't crutch on Maulers and Rumblers), Acidcraw would be insuficient for that role imo.
     
  14. Emries

    Emries Devotee of the Blood Owl

    Sounds like you want some Slum Market in your life ;P
     
  15. Jib

    Jib Better-Known Member

    Stop trying to make Slum Market happen. It's not going to happen.
     
  16. Jib

    Jib Better-Known Member

    New patch tldr : all nurfs. Swarm Nurf. Waylay/Revolt nurf. TRAPPER? nurf.

    Except Vindictive getting a real upgrade I guess?

    Still being edited.

    Basilisk got a pity Petrifying Gaze (FLAVORWIN)
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2014
  17. MovnTarget

    MovnTarget Forum Royalty

    Didn't quite get the trapper nerf but it's still pretty good. spell nerfs and swarm nerfs to be expected. Now they just need to nerf summons.
     
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  18. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    And now i shall make the petrifying Gaze bg i always dreamed.
     
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  19. Schmacko

    Schmacko I need me some PIE!

    Bookburner caught a 5 nora increase with the bookburn recost.

    The funny thing about the vindictive skeez change is that he still doens't have skeez alliance as an upgrade choice, because science.
     
  20. Jib

    Jib Better-Known Member

    Vinny 111
    res 2 -5
    breath 2 -11
    dflight -8
    regen 3 -9
    surge d 1 -5
    hero +15 (?)

    88 nora for stats
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    Euan 94
    bm 3 -4
    surge e -10
    cons -10
    e hammer -6
    impact -6
    hero +15

    73 nora for stats

    Euan has +1 range, +1 def and -7 hp, for a 15 nora difference.

    Conclusion, HP is expensive as ****

    Checkmate ISisOP.
     
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