Return of the Ice Golem?

[Demon75]

With the cost changes to Ice Eater coming up will the Golem and the Zerker make a return?

[calisk]

serker likely will, simply cause he's a yeti, and yeti's are likely going to pwn.

although he may of made his return even without the cost reduction. as things are looking now, their may be a large need to start ranting post expansion though, but let's hope that's not needed ^^

not alot of old stuff is changing, fire stuff is only getting cheaper...let's hope the runes we get kick ass or, i don't think this expansion is going to be that good for us.

i'm pretty much putting all my hopes on yeti theme as it stands.

[poxNoah181]

Originally Posted by calisk

serker likely will, simply cause he's a yeti, and yeti's are likely going to pwn.

although he may of made his return even without the cost reduction. as things are looking now, their may be a large need to start ranting post expansion though, but let's hope that's not needed ^^

not alot of old stuff is changing, fire stuff is only getting cheaper...let's hope the runes we get kick ass or, i don't think this expansion is going to be that good for us.

i'm pretty much putting all my hopes on yeti theme as it stands.

yep i pray we get gooduns or cheaper fire will exploit our already weak state. id rather have ice eater as upgrade than base on the zerk even if its cheaper.

[calisk]

yep, i've pretty much been trying to stay quiet, since st came out fairly decently post herald(mostly due to changes in other factions, not ours).

nobody has really had to many large complaints, but if all we get this expansion is yeti's and they turn out to suck, well....it won't be a good day for me, since this expansion over all was below average, yielding nothing but vanilla beater champs, and nothing really useful. i DO NOT want to have another crap expansion that yields nothing interesting, that's for sure...

[Demon75]

Originally Posted by calisk

serker likely will, simply cause he's a yeti, and yeti's are likely going to pwn.

although he may of made his return even without the cost reduction. as things are looking now, their may be a large need to start ranting post expansion though, but let's hope that's not needed ^^

not alot of old stuff is changing, fire stuff is only getting cheaper...let's hope the runes we get kick ass or, i don't think this expansion is going to be that good for us.

i'm pretty much putting all my hopes on yeti theme as it stands.

I'm not having a good feeling about this expansion either, but I'm going through a bad streak right now so my perspective is kind of shaded.

[dukeofsnow]

yeah... we'll need some range yetis as well as some solid support to give the yeti's a chance at a BG. It's pretty impossible to find a zerker these days. Expectations are surely there, we will see if SOE disappoints.

Side note.. tried out the flag carrying Mastodon last night. Pure win.

[Crex90]

The Yeti idea looks exciting. I hope that the new yetis offer a lot of interesting tactics that will make them a unique experience that feels different from a Jakei-Ice Amp deck or a Lonx deck.

As for the Fire vs Ice argument...I've always found it fascinating. UD players are just as convinced that Ice is stronger as ST players are convinced that Fire is stronger. There are a lot more ST runes that are metaworthy with Vuln: Fire than there are UD runes with Vuln: Frost, this is true, but in a true Fire Deck that is no longer the case. Add to that the idea that UD doesn't have something akin to the Ice Shard, nor does it have multiple sources of Fire Range, and I really think the two are more or less on equal footing.

[Remni]

Originally Posted by Crex90

There are a lot more ST runes that are metaworthy with Vuln: Fire than there are UD runes with Vuln: Frost, this is true, but in a true Fire Deck that is no longer the case.

Fixed for you

[Crex90]

Originally Posted by Remni

Fixed for you

Heh thanks :)

[Rodin]

Originally Posted by Crex90

As for the Fire vs Ice argument...I've always found it fascinating. UD players are just as convinced that Ice is stronger as ST players are convinced that Fire is stronger. There are a lot more ST runes that are metaworthy with Vuln: Fire than there are UD runes with Vuln: Frost, this is true, but in a true Fire Deck that is no longer the case. Add to that the idea that UD doesn't have something akin to the Ice Shard, nor does it have multiple sources of Fire Range, and I really think the two are more or less on equal footing.

To my mind, UD hasn't been the main problem where fire damage is concerned for a long time now, except for a couple of notable runes in Grimlic and Nefari Dragon. Honestly, I fear SL fire units and spells far more.

On the topic of the expansion, I don't have a good feeling about it either. Yeti don't interest me in particular, and if SOE's response to our complaints about flavor is to start into another half-baked theme that they aren't going to follow through on and then leave it to die...well...I don't know what I'll do. I'm certain I'll never outright leave, but I may end up just not playing and spending my time spectating instead.