Faction Bonuses - Scale Down?

I like KF's iteration, wish it factored speed instead but then range will be kind of cool I suppose.
Isn't IS's current bonus 4 for full faction?

 

the fw and kf changes seem nice. not sure if scaling down the bonuses would be better though. fw and kf could really use new bonuses though. it would take more work balancing them afterwards though.

 

IS is currently 6 for full faction I believe

 

I find this quite humorous.

If you're going to scale down bonuses, maybe a flat 2 damage block would be better. It would still be better than most other bonuses, but maybe not as much.

Maybe a flat 2 damage block on champions with range: 1?

 

Could we just remove them fully? Why bother downgrading them when it sitll has the same result as now in the long run. If you want a faction to have a certain strength, just put that into their design. SL suppose to have harder to kill champions or take less damage in general? Boom: SL champs have a higher defense stat/more defensive abilities on average then other factions on their champions ( could even do this by race template, i.e. Draksars must have at least 3 def but it can scale up to 5 or whatever. This can work with negatives like dwarfs have 5 spd but can scale up to a max of 6 depending on design goals/cost/role etc). It works for every bonus, even FW could simply have more abilities/runes that allow them to recycle champ use and gasp! it also helsp shoeboxed runes that are redundant thanks to their bonus have some value.

Yes it would require going through and adjusting the stat/ability line up ( or applying faction related price reductions/increases for abilities/stats) but wouldn't be better in the long run? Anyway, just my ideal solution.

p.s. if you make racial templates any changes would simply be copy past down the line as race stats would be restricted to set ratios.

 

That'd be garbage.

Idk, SL bonus is a large part of SL's "succes" or rather "not dead yet". But if somehow it could be made more noob friendly - even though I think it's fine, but people seem to dislike it - that'd be cool.

 

My fear is that by making the faction bonuses less significant, you increase the likelyhood they'll be forgotten or ignored in-game and cause miscalculations and frustration. I guess this is mostly talking about IS and SL, but also effects nora bonuses - SP, FS, and the proposed FW.

There is also the flavour issue, with limited design space, it might be difficult to design every champ so that it somehow has faction flavour built in.

Not saying that it's necessarily a bad idea, but I worry that the bonuses would become 'background noise' rather than a defining part of the faction.

 

if you are going to make that change for fw, remove boon of undead, why they will have reduction on nora on death AND pick up more nora than other champs?

 

Id Rather see them all removed, let the font bonuses add flavor. The runes themselves should reflect the faction.

 

SL so bad bonus can stay

 

should remove the bonuses altogether. assign each race a small bonus. easier to keep the themes balanced with respect to each other that way and splits wont care.

faction wide bonuses made sense when pox was young, the number of runes was small and faction identity was high. with all of the variations of playstyle that themes bring to each faction, a faction wide bonus makes little sense, flavor wise or balance wise.

 

I honestly don't like these ideas... I mean, a Forglar Swap split will get 1 extra nora?

Numbers are too lower in my opinion.

 

FW so bad,that it gets buffed when all bonuses are scaled down.

 

By losing Boon. Yeah.

 

Everything being 4 nora cheaper aint so bad.

 

I like the FW one, the IS bonus, isn't the same? they are just getting -1 reduction on spell damage.

 

Just a question, how will champion be alternate if these get through? OR will the just keep the same as they are right now?