Here's a question for dem experienced UD players: when do you add Masochism to the bg and when do you skip it?
not to say i'm all too experienced, I would say Mas is for when you need a defensive play. I usually lean more offensive on spells because that's what I like. Mas has it's uses though, always handy to have around.
From your initial bg. I would replace vanguard with reaver or ireguard and maybe remove a sacrifice or dark pact and add mindstorm because... nohkan do
I skip detection and use boomerang. you should be able to work out roughly where they are to get the hit off and then when you find them they have 10 hp left. Occassionally they will hide them behind their lines but usually they are off flanking to one side. I hate having champs there just for detection. persoanlly i haven't looked back. love boomerang. best UD spell prior to split personality...
I really struggle with bane shift. i love the idea but found in game that it seems quite variable what and when it passes onto the enemy. if you could help i would love to use it more
I find Split Personality better than Bane Shift. I have no cleanse (unless the Demon Lich is nearby). My guy gets some nasty condition (bane) on my opponenet's turn. I SP the nearest big hitter on my turn. He hits me and so hits himself on his turn. Next turn my condition has worn off and I hit him. I like that with Ireguards. I REALLY REALLY value my Deep Elf Scout. He has won me so many games. Either with Pilfer or with Detect. Or with a double deploy turn two with a Deep Elf Merc. It is interesting to read that drathys rusn no detection. Brave!
cool!! ive never played UD before, (i was playing fs, iS mostly) and since i returned after 3 months i was wondering how meta bg will look like
Yes. Mostly on bleed theme but bleed isn't good right now. There are too many depending on the type of bg you want to build.
I suggest trying the Murk Demon. 59 nora for Ethereal, stealth and shadowshift. His role is to get into the enemies font and stall there. Thanks to murk, detection is the only way to spot him. And thanks to ethereal he is hard to kill (despite his 36 HP) in skirmishes (also, murk means DoT will not de-stealth him). Plus with a demon shield he can be effectively immune from magic as well (rarely is it melee based). I've started running 2x Murk Demon and 2x Manslayer, along with 2x Echoes as well. Something like this: https://poxbase.com/deck/Ca4C3BcxC6-c60cw+coZCwNC5_C33c5=S2lS2Hs3osOsAs8@r2irAENe2g I've considered swapping Split Personality out after it's change (maybe for mindblast?). PoV is good for the double taps from Manslayer. And of course, you have 8 champs under 65 nora for Maxx (Pin, Guardian, Murk, Scout, Alc). Priestess feels like a needed include with Maxx, still.
Strings, I would love to give you a game to discuss UD tactics. Right now I am trying to run a BG without spells.