Phantasmal Creeper, will he see play?

Discussion in 'Forsaken Wastes' started by OriginalG1, Mar 3, 2014.

  1. OriginalG1

    OriginalG1 I need me some PIE!

    I really enjoy Phantasmal creeper, nora leech and unholy tomb seem to have powerful possibilities. Out side of granting magic aura and nora leeching he is not doing much though. Any idea's on how to synergize Phantasmal Creeper into a meta build?
     
  2. yobanchi

    yobanchi I need me some PIE!

    He needs an actual attack.

    I always found it odd that 50% of the creep ability relies on a basic attack killing an enemy champion yet two of its support champs have no basic attacks. Creeps need more synergy.
     
  3. BansheeX

    BansheeX I need me some PIE!

    Creep needs a lot more syn ergy and Phantasmal should never have had Ethereal in the first place. Remove it and give it a basic attack so it can actually work with the rest of the theme. It would go a long way towards making the theme playable.
     
  4. OriginalG1

    OriginalG1 I need me some PIE!

    Interesting feedback, i like what you guys are saying. Maybe it wouldn't too much ask for Phantasmal creeper to become a magic range unit? (mutant/creepers seem to be lacking in that area)
     
  5. BansheeX

    BansheeX I need me some PIE!

    Creepers doesnt really lack range, but Magic damage would be nice.
    Perhaps make it 1-3 since creeps hve nothing in that ballpark.
     
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  6. Woffleet

    Woffleet I need me some PIE!

    To find the appropriate place for him in the creepers theme we must consider design

    Faction FW
    Attrition, death benefit

    Creeps:
    Push forward deployment zone

    How can that ability help with the theme of attrition? Having a larger deployment zone means your opponent never knows where the next champs is coming from. This makes abilities such as auras and initiative very powerful. For Phantasmal creeper adding Death Pack would better allow him to fill his role. You don't won't your Nora gen on the front lines and if there is danger he can portal away. I would argue adding reinforce but that might be a bit to powerful in combination with death pack.
     
  7. Woffleet

    Woffleet I need me some PIE!

    thougts?
     
  8. WraithxxV

    WraithxxV Active Member

    Planning for revamp of course, as that's all that matters now anyways, Phantasmal Creeper could be their form of perseverance counter + magic damage source. Something like

    Abilities
    Attack: Magical
    Ethereal
    Magic Aura 3
    Portal (Initiative 1, Nora Leech)
    Magic Acolyte (Vulnerability: Magical)

    Maximum nora efficienty in the Vuln + Nora Leech build, or mobile annoyance with some healing on base build or with initiative.
     
  9. Woffleet

    Woffleet I need me some PIE!

    death pack instead of attack magical
     
  10. BansheeX

    BansheeX I need me some PIE!

    I do not think Death Pact is a good idea. With his mobility it would likely be far to easy to pull off.
     

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