Buffs for Next Patch

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Sokolov, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. HiveLord

    HiveLord I need me some PIE!

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    Faeguard Nullbeast

    This is an absolutely beautiful sprite. Straight up, one of the very best looking insex in the game.

    It's being wasted in KF. They don't use it, they don't care about it. I'm not saying it needs to completely come over to SL, but could it pretty please at least be a split rune?
    Swap Bulwark Fairy with it's Bodyguard Upgrade, and done.

    Please, please let it split with SL. :)
     
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  2. scrampy

    scrampy I need me some PIE!

    Haha what are you talking about? I've seen at least 3 of these bad boys today from KF players and I know that Karmavore, chris, and myself all use him in various BGs. He is great in both beast and fairy BGs! I don't mind him splitting with SL but I do worry about his bodyguard ability in something like myx where it is already important yet difficult to get to the high priority runes like the 20 damage spitter (with mantle) or matriarch.
     
  3. Dresnar20365988

    Dresnar20365988 Devotee of the Blood Owl

    I don't see Dwarven Roughneck getting flash bomb.

    Make it happen.

    That is all.

    Good day.
     
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  4. Iskandak

    Iskandak The King of Potatoes

    Hooligan is still used a buckload, with feint and sunder 1. so he doesnt really need a buff.
    For hooligan i feel that the cost difference between sunder 1 and carouse (5 nora) is so big that Sunder 1 is the way to go, which feels as a shame, as I'd like to use carouse but not at its cost difference.
    And a feint fix? As feint is a pretend attack wouldnt it make more sense to have the same range as the champ it is on?
     
  5. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    I'll look into Feint.
     
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  6. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Feint: This Champion makes a 0 damage basic attack against target champion within 4 spaces. This attack is not part of the attack chain. If this attack is successful, the attacked champion has -2 Defense for 1 turn.
     
  7. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    So you don't think it should be the unit's attack range, Markoth?
     
  8. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Ability called Feint.
     
  9. Iskandak

    Iskandak The King of Potatoes

    seconded
     
  10. avichaif

    avichaif Devotee of the Blood Owl

    sorry my bad remove this
     
  11. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Was just clarifying what it is supposed to be currently. If the range was the same as the champion it is on then it would work fine. It is just awkward to use when the champs max range is 5 but it has to move 1 space closer just to use Feint. Currently the ability is getting its minimum range from the champions range but the maximum range is locked at 4. E.g. if it was on a MinRanged 5 champ the ability will not work at all.

    Making the range match the champion it is on would likely hurt the non-hooligan champs it is on though because I believe all the others are range 1-1
     
  12. Iskandak

    Iskandak The King of Potatoes

    immagine a range 1 champ (no kah guide for instance) getting into range 4 and pretending to attack you... in any normal circumstance I'd drop my defense out of amazement. And yes I know poxnora is far from reality, but hey ;)
     
  13. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Yea, so there are 2 approaches:
    • It is RNG 1-4, OR;
    • It is the unit's RNG
    The second makes more sense to me.
     
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  14. Strings

    Strings Devotee of the Blood Owl

    In reality I always do my attacks at range 4.
     
  15. Dresnar20365988

    Dresnar20365988 Devotee of the Blood Owl

    How much sense does it make to you to get flash bomb on the Dwarven Roughneck?

    Good day
     
  16. Strings

    Strings Devotee of the Blood Owl

    One is easy to cost while the other would change depending on the champ it is on... But the "use champs range" is an intuitive and easy option.
     
  17. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

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  18. Strings

    Strings Devotee of the Blood Owl

    I love it when you flutter your eyelashes at me.
     
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  19. Dresnar20365988

    Dresnar20365988 Devotee of the Blood Owl

    The second enrage ability line for the Dwarven Roughneck could be changed into something much more useful. Flashbomb for 1. Feint for another. The third Im not too sure.

    I really want him back as a counter to pingers and his 1-3 range is really condusive to flashbombing.

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  20. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Likelihood decreasing with each post about it ;)
     
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