Current ST power could do with some trimming.

The most recent overwatch patch hit a week or so ago. Before that the possibly most ideal lineup was:

Rein (tank)
Ana (sup)
Lucio (sup)
Zarya (tank)
Road (tank)
Soldier. (dps)

This lineup included 1 DPS, 3 Tanks, and 2 supports. While there were some minor changes to road, the only champion who was nerfed was Ana. Among other changes her grenade heal boost was reduced from 100%, to 50% and the duration from 5s to 4s, the difference of a few hundred or so HP of heals over many seconds, however not a HUGE change. This meta was known as the Tank meta, and another culprit D.Va was running rampant in place of road sometimes, however she wasn't in the preferred lineup most often.

Now I will mention that none of the champs that are meta now were buffed. Nor were the bulk of the old meta nerfed. Only D.Va (separate problem) and Ana was nerfed. The support was nerfed, and changed the meta from Triple Tank to Full Dive (squishy). To outline how wildly different the champion lineup dive includes:
Ana (sup)
Lucio (sup)
Winston (tank)
Genji/tracer (dps)
Genji/tracer/soldier/pharah/reaper (dps)
x (current trend is another DPS though zarya is also decent).
The picks aren't certain because after all it is a fresh meta, however...

WOW A WHOLE NEW META THAT WASNT SEEN BEFORE PLAYERS MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.

All it took was the change of a heal buff (not even the primary or most consistent heal) from 100% to 50% to completely shake up the meta. Sure if D.Va remained the same it wouldn't have had quite the same impact, however D.Va wasn't the main driver of this meta that has been semi-prominent since Ana was introduced to the game and hasn't become what all the players are playing hurr durr until now.

 

Also it's not as though snowspinner wasn't extremely powerful last patch and everyone 'forgot' or something. We were complaining about it in game for sure, ulfheobar spanked me many times with a vothsair ireguard snowpsinner. We both thought it was getting nerfed for sure but it didn't, because it didn't have a 'nerf thread'. So here it is and I hate it as much as you do.

Also notice how I didn't label the faction OP, or a huge list of runes such as the usual kento or bge as you said I did just earlier, but instead one rune I thought was the culprit that exacerbated the strengths of all other runes beyond their intended reach for little cost. Similar was the case for UD, where I was almost certain UD would be garbage without BE and sok wasn't convinced. What do you know I was right about that one (garbage is hyperbole yes). But it was just a guess you know yours is as good as mine since we both don't know how to play the game apparently.

 

Gemma, who is in the top 20 right now, played the exact same deck to little effect. Did you not read anything I said.

Also the same thing could be said for the meta in ANY PRO GAMES. HURR DURR there are only 10 teams in a league there is no meta only 15 matches get played!!!! Lool

 

Hyperbole yes, ofcourse its still viable just as all factions now. But it is right now the 6th,7th or 8th faction depending on who you ask. That's classified as 'garbage' when complaining over the forum yes. You would know if you played sok.

 

I don't see what this has to do with anything the BG was garbo (Hyperbole yes) and would get stomped by old SP dreamcrusher, old constructs (the IS bonus wins the game automatically), and old UD rush. Idk how you can argue against that.

 

Never played vs that deck however did play against double/triple hunter triple/quadruple aura BGs and they were pretty silly I agree but luckily they were fixed. Anyways unless it was a double hunter trample I assume SL would destroy that combo (meta) and IS structs would have too no?

Also I've vsed UD before the patch and after the patch. I was certain that the only reason (Not the only one, again hyperbole) I lost to UD pre-patch was BE. Now it's post patch and the games are literally EZ mode. I mean how do they win you just out manoeuvre all of their champions they're all fat and slow. I don't think it's because all the UD players jumped ship that UD is bad.

 

Because you are misrepresenting my argument, and I'm the one complaining about the rune so you have to understand mine first I believe.

This bit right here:
"I am NOT arguing against the existence of a meta effect, I just think that in Pox's case it is not necessarily the primary component of what gets complained about"
If thered played in the last patch no one would complain, as did people when gemma played. The deck simply wasn't good enough to beat the best, which was what everyone was complaining about.

I thought I didn't need to make a complaint thread on the forum about snowspinner to get some attention to it, because people were complaining about it. The only reason I'm making one now, is because I thought it was getting nerfed last patch but it didn't. So here we are.

 

I said the only problem in UD was BE. Because it exacerbated the intended effects of runes beyond their intended synergies and roles. Similar to snowspinner no? Which I have singled out. CoT is just something that's old and needs change. I don't know why I'm labelled with the masses of idiots here, much like some of the others who replied to this thread.